Tim, that is how I took your suggestion, which I believe meshes with
Adrian's, which I agree with. I do not support essentially forcing the
"family" registrars to pay a fee for each cred in the family, but if
registrars are basically forced to pay the membership fee, then they
should each have a vote. I support a higher flat membership fee, with
"forgiveness" based on some objective criteria.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ruiz [mailto:tim at godaddy.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:40 PM
To: Registrars Constituency; RC Voting Members
Subject: RE: [registrars] RE: [RC Voting] Dues of $750 with
"forgiveness" forthose who chooseto pay $250.
All,
My suggestion about setting fees based on size was just an idea to help
resolve our budget issues and allow us to have a paid staff member,
which I feel is important if we are to progress as a constituency and
become more efficient and effective. I in no way intended it to lead to
larger registrars having more weight behind their votes. That said, it
was just an idea and I understand Adrian's valid concerns.
I think Adrian makes another perfectly reasonable suggestion and would
support that as well - a higher flat fee for membership that can be
forgiven based on some critieria and/or the judgement of the ExCom.
However, if we go in the direction Bob is suggesting, basically forced
membership, then I will definately have a problem if there is no voting
consideration being given to the other registrars we will, in affect, be
forced into paying membership for.
Tim
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From: Robert F. Connelly [mailto:BobC at awesome-goo.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 7:52 AM
To: Registrars Constituency; RC Voting Members
Subject: [RC Voting] Dues of $750 with "forgiveness" for those who
chooseto pay $250.
Dear Members:
There has been very little discussion of the proposed budget. Debate
ends on Friday, 3 August, just five days from now.
Let me tell you how we got to where we are with $750/year with $250 for
those requesting "forgiveness":
Tim Ruiz, whose company, Godaddy, pays $250/year, suggests that some of
the larger RC members pay a higher fee. That resounded to Excom as
though it was worth considering. However, Adrian became a member of the
"larger" Excom and he said it was not fair to charge one member more
than another. The issue was dropped.
Then the idea of $750 was vetted, with possible forgiveness for those
who felt they should only pay $250.
Here is the proposed budget:
Registrar's Constituency Budget
2007-2008
Review Period: 30 Days
Income & Assets
Current Assets (Bank Account) $37,672.31
Proposed Dues $750.00
Number of Members 50 $37,500.00
Proposed Reduced Fees $250.00
Number of Members w/reduced fees 10 $2,500.00
$75,172.31
Expenses
Administrative Support-2 $15,000.00
Professional Support-3 $30,000.00
Technical Expenses-4 $4,000.00
Meeting Expenses-5 $5,000.00
$54,000.00
Expected Ending Balance $21,172.31
end quote:
It occurs to me to point out that some members have membership for one
company but in some way control several other registrars. They take out
only one membership because they could not have more than one vote.
But they take advantage of that one membership to promote issues of
interest (and value) for all of them.
Since Tim Ruiz was the one who volunteered to pay a higher "tier" of
membership dues, let me use Godaddy as an example:
At 09:40 AM 3/8/2007 Thursday -0700, Tim Ruiz wrote:
Tom, all of the operational Go Daddy Group registrars agree with the
statement and can be added as signatories.
GoDaddy.com, Inc. (RC member)
Wild West Domains, Inc.
Blue Razor Domains, Inc.
Go Australia Domains, Inc.
Go Canada Domains, Inc.
Go China Domains, Inc.
Go France Domains, Inc.
Go Italy Domains, Inc.
end quote:
That would be seven membership, at $250/each, that would be $1,750.
NetSol controls ICANN Accredited Registrars.
But what about Snapnames, Namescout and eNom? It is suggested that some
of them have over 100 other ICANN Accredited Registrars. If they
coughed up $25,000 each, we could afford the "Technical Support"
consultant shown in blue in the Budget, above.
I think it would be helpful if the members who had the most at stake
were to pay in proportion to their ICANN Accreditations.
We have five days to discuss these issues.
Regards, BobC
2007-2008
Review Period: 30 Days
Income & Assets
Current Assets (Bank Account)
$37,672.31
Proposed Dues $750.00
Number of Members 50 $37,500.00
Proposed Reduced Fees-1 $250.00
Number of Members w/reduced fees 10 $2,500.00
$75,172.31
Expenses
Administrative Support-2
$15,000.00
Professional Support-3
$30,000.00
Technical Expenses-4
$4,000.00
Meeting Expenses-5
$5,000.00
$54,000.00
Expected Ending Balance
$21,172.31