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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don’t think it’s an open
question anymore. As Bob notes, there were no amendments that received
the required endorsements. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With that said, we have had a great deal
of helpful discussion and as Bob also noted, that the ExCom has an opportunity
to send out a revised budget in the next few days that will incorporate some of
the comments received to date. I’d like to see the following
clarified/spelled out in the budget that we put to a vote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Without creating
legal liability for us, those who need to see applications for fee reductions
will keep them confidential; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>fee
reductions will be granted only in limited circumstances and will be reviewed based
on a number of criteria, including size of registrar, size of corporate
affiliates, geographic location, and whether the registrar is a new member; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>fees may
be reduced to no lower than $250, but don’t have to be as low as $250; and
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>there
should be fee pro-ration for new members.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jon<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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owner-registrars@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-registrars@gnso.icann.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tim Ruiz<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 05, 2007 8:42
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Registrars Constituency; RC
Voting Members<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [registrars] * Formal
discussion period on the Budget is now closed.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Bob, since the proponent of the original budget motion has not accepted
your amendment as friendly, I would assume it is an unfriendly amendment,
correct? If that is still an open question, I would encourse Margie *not*
accept the amendment as friendly. Also, who endorsed it and could that
individual please reaffirm their endorsement. I do not recall seeing it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I know discussion is closed, but with all due respect Bob, if your
motion passes it puts the ExCom and RC in an awkward position for the following
reasons:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>1. It would basically make management of the RC funds a personal
responsbility of one or more ExCom members, which is a problem we have been
trying to resolve. And we could not move forward with using an ICANN provided
account.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2. It vastly reduces the value of having a paid secretariat since
he/she would not be able to manage the RC membership and invoicing or
otherwise assist the Treasurer in regards to those matters.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3. It puts the ExCom in a situation where they could become legally
liable if the information is divulged, even if unintentionally.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>4. ExCom members come and go. When they leave the ExCom they cannot
commit to forgetting what they know. Are we going to start requiring NDAs of
ExCom members? I am sure that would severly limit the members who would be
interested in running.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I understand the spirit of your motion, but I don't think it is
possible to entirely enforce as written, nor should we attempt to. I have not
offered an amendment to it because I don't think there is any way to propose it
without creating the problems noted above.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Finally, I can't really think of a situation where a member trying to
minimize the opinions, participation, etc. of a member who paid less to join
for good reason would get very far with their effort. I've known most of the
regular participants of the RC for several years now and I can't think of one
who wouldn't speak up and put a lid on such an effort immediately.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I would encourage the ExCom to make an effort to keep dues amount
confidential, but can see no good coming from a bylaw or rule that makes it
more or less a legal obligation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Tim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-------- Original Message
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Subject: [registrars] * Formal discussion period on the Budget is now<br>
closed.<br>
From: "Robert F. Connelly" <BobC@awesome-goo.com><br>
Date: Sat, August 04, 2007 10:14 am<br>
To: RC Voting Members <votingmembers@registrars.beach.net><br>
Cc: Registrars Constituency <registrars@gnso.icann.org><br>
<br>
Dear Members:<br>
<br>
The discussion period for the Budget is now closed. There was a motion to
accept the budget as written by Treasurer Margie Milam. There were at least
three endorsements of the Motion. There were no Amendments to the main Motion
which received the required one endorsement. The main Motion is in order as
originally published.<br>
<br>
There has been considerable discussion of the Motion. The original proposer of
the Motion has the opportunity to incorporate some of the suggestions.<br>
<br>
The Secretary will publi! sh the ballot on the Motion for inspection and
correction on 11 August.<br>
<br>
The ballot will be opened on 13 August and closed on 23 August.<br>
<br>
A special note to voting members: Make sure that your voting Email address is
in order. To have your vote counted you must follow these protocols:<br>
<br>
1. You are able to receive the email at that Email address, no anti-spam for
the ballot to hurdle.<br>
2. You must return your marked ballot from your voting Email address, not some
alternate Email address.<br>
<br>
Respectfully submitted,<br>
Bob Connelly<br>
Secretary of Registrar Constituency<br>
<br>
P.S. Please forgive me for posting this Email to both the Voting Members list
and to the general RC list. The Rules of Procedure specify the RC list, but I
want to be sure that all voting members receive at least one copy.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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