[RSSAC Caucus] Updating the RSSAC FAQ
Geoff Huston
gih at apnic.net
Fri May 1 20:22:41 UTC 2020
> On 2 May 2020, at 1:25 am, Dave Lawrence <tale at dd.org> wrote:
>
> Geoff Huston writes:
>> "Finally, many more resolvers today are capable of falling back to
>> TCP when they receive a truncated response over UDP”
>>
>> really? Where is the study that publishes this finding?
>
> It could use clarification, certainly, beyond just the fuzziness of
> "many more". There are several metrics which could all claim to be
> relevant. A few of them seem like they are probably true in raw
> numbers if only because of overall growth over the past couple of
> decades (and yes, good measurement would confirm that). Like:
>
> * Total number of implementations
> * Total number of running servers
> * Total number of people served (not strictly a resolver, but still relevant)
>
> But, maybe that picture changes when you ask about the percent of the
> whole, and then "many more" might not apply.
>
> Measurement rules, for sure. I also don't think it is entirely out of
> place to make a qualified claim based on our cumulative anecdotal
> experience that overall the TCP fallback scenario is improved now vs
> the past, as long as it clear that it is supposition rather than data.
>
My measurements of TCP use from time to time report that the relative number of
users that sit behind recursive resolvers that cannot perform TCP appear
to be unchanged for the 6 years that I’ve looked (from time tim time). Now
there are many ways of reporting DNS (resolvers, users, queries, … as well as
absolute numbers or relative numbers).
Therefore I don't understand the basis of the TCP claim in that report - it seems
apocryphal to me
Geoff
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