<div dir="auto">Thanks a lot,<div dir="auto">Harish Chowdhary </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 26 Apr, 2023, 21:31 Alejandro Acosta, <<a href="mailto:alejandro@lacnic.net">alejandro@lacnic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div>
    <p>Hello,</p>
    <p>  For all interested, there is an on-going talk/thread about RFC
      3797bis in the general IETF mailing list.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Regards,</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Alejandro,<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div>On 14/1/23 1:11 AM, Harish Chowdhary
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div dir="auto">
        <div>Dear Andrew,
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">As I went through RFC 3797 several times, I
            understood the following. Please correct me if I am wrong.</div>
          <div dir="auto">
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">There are a few potential disadvantages of
              using a Publicly Verifiable Nominations Committee (NomCom)
              Random Selection process, such as the one outlined in RFC
              3797. Some of these include:</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">Complexity: The process outlined in the RFC
              is quite complex and may be difficult for some people to
              understand or implement.</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">Time-consuming: The process of selecting
              nominees through random selection can be time-consuming,
              especially if there are a large number of potential
              nominees.</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto"><b><u><font color="#f44336">Limited pool of
                    nominees: The random selection process may not yield
                    a diverse group of nominees, as it is based on
                    chance rather than a deliberate effort to seek out
                    candidates from underrepresented groups.</font></u></b></div>
            <div dir="auto">That is what I had highlighted.</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">Lack of accountability: Because the
              selection process is random, there is no way to hold
              individuals or groups accountable for the nominees that
              are chosen.</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">Limited transparency: It can be difficult
              for members of the community to understand or verify the
              selection process, as it relies on complex mathematical
              algorithms and cryptographic techniques.</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">Exclusion of certain people: Some
              individuals may be excluded from the selection process if
              they are not able to provide the necessary information or
              meet the requirements outlined in the RFC, which can be a
              limitation.</div>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">Any suggestions?</div>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">Harish Chowdhary </div>
          <br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 13 Jan, 2023, 9:28
              pm Andrew McConachie, <<a href="mailto:andrew.mcconachie@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">andrew.mcconachie@icann.org</a>>
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Dear
                Harish,<br>
                 <br>
                RFC 3797 is publicly verifiable. You can run the
                algorithm yourself with the information provided in
                Steve’s earlier email and verify the results yourself.
                If you are interested in past results the archives of
                this mailing list are available at: <<a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rssac-caucus/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rssac-caucus/</a>><br>
                 <br>
                RFC 3797 is string agnostic. Each choice in the lottery
                is assigned an index and that index is the value the
                algorithm uses. Thus, these questions you have about how
                a name’s ordering may impact results are
                inconsequential. <br>
                 <br>
                The sources of randomness are identified before the
                lottery determines the winner. But the random numbers
                generated by these sources cannot be known at the time
                each potential choice is assigned an index. Because of
                this, there is no way anyone can pre-determine an
                outcome by assigning specific indices to specific
                persons. Because at the time of index assignment no one
                can know which indices will be chosen.<br>
                 <br>
                I hope this information helps and if you have further
                questions about how RFC 3797 functions, feel free to
                reach out. I’m certainly not an expert, but I have read
                it a few times.<br>
                 <br>
                Thanks,<br>
                Andrew<br>
                <br>
                <div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div>On 11 Jan 2023, at 15:12, Harish Chowdhary <<a href="mailto:intern3tgovernance@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">intern3tgovernance@gmail.com</a>>
                      wrote:</div>
                    <br>
                    <div>
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div>Dear Steve,</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Thank you very much for your response.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><b>Please provide the following
                              information to help us understand the
                              process and fill any gaps in our
                              knowledge.</b></div>
                          <div>
                            <ol>
                              <li>Please tell us what the results of the
                                RSSAC CAUCUS IETF travel support have
                                been since the program's inception, as
                                well as why these rules were created, so
                                we can determine whether this is a new
                                process or a replacement for an old one.</li>
                              <li>Also, please provide the results for
                                the following combinations so that we
                                can see how the algorithm works when it
                                selects the person with the one name
                                from the following options:</li>
                            </ol>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <ul>
                              <li>FirstName LastName (Harish Chowdhary)</li>
                              <li>LastName FirstName (Chowdhary Harish)</li>
                              <li>Only the first name is used. (Harish)</li>
                            </ul>
                            <br>
                            Multiple places state that guidelines are
                            only for reference and are not binding. Here
                            due to the limited pool of applicants who
                            are applying; in most cases, the result
                            would be the same/similar. <br>
                          </div>
                          <div><u><b>Non availability of the requested
                                data would conclude the results are not
                                valid.</b></u><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>I remember a very important discussion
                            was started at IETF 100 in order to
                            incorporate human perspectives into
                            standards and protocols such as the RFC
                            discussed here; it may not have any issues,
                            but the implementation may have relied on
                            similar inputs from a very small input
                            domain.<br>
                            <br>
                            Most importantly, because only a small
                            number of experts are participating, the
                            lottery system should not preclude active
                            participation.<br>
                            <u><b>The goal is to treat everyone as a
                                person, not just a number in a lottery.</b></u></div>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Thanks,</div>
                        <div>Harish Chowdhary</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">
                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan
                            5, 2023 at 8:39 PM Steve Sheng <<a href="mailto:steve.sheng@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">steve.sheng@icann.org</a>>
                            wrote:<br>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                            <div>
                              <div lang="EN-US">
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Harish, </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">  Thanks for your
                                    email. I see two questions and let
                                    me respond to them separately.
                                  </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">  <b>Regarding
                                      your concern that the random
                                      selection always select the alpha
                                      A first,</b>  I have
                                    double-checked the result using two
                                    implementations of RFC 3797 and both
                                    yields the same responses. I have
                                    also checked and confirmed that the
                                    randomness we use follows the
                                    guidelines laid out in section 3 of
                                    RFC3797. Based on these, I concluded
                                    that we have followed RFC 3797. I
                                    have also checked with other
                                    communities that use RFC3797 and did
                                    not find evidence that it always
                                    selects the alpha A first. Based on
                                    these, and unless proven otherwise,
                                    I conclude the selection is valid.
                                  </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b>  Regarding
                                      your question “</b><b><span>I hope
                                        travel support should be even
                                        and given to member who never
                                        received it and based upon some
                                        rationale rather than a
                                        lottery,”</span></b><span> this
                                      selection has been done as
                                      outlined in the IETF Supported
                                      Travelers Funding Guidelines
                                      attached. The guidelines do not
                                      preclude an RSSAC Caucus member
                                      from being considered for travel
                                      support even if they received
                                      travel support in the past.
                                    </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">I hope this
                                    helps. Let me know if you have more
                                    questions. </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Best</p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Steve</p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  <div style="border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt">Harish
                                        Chowdhary <<a href="mailto:intern3tgovernance@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">intern3tgovernance@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                        <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, January
                                        4, 2023 at 12:33 PM<br>
                                        <b>To: </b>Steve Sheng <<a href="mailto:steve.sheng@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">steve.sheng@icann.org</a>><br>
                                        <b>Cc: </b>Ozan Sahin <<a href="mailto:ozan.sahin@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ozan.sahin@icann.org</a>>,
                                        RSSAC Caucus <<a href="mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rssac-caucus@icann.org</a>><br>
                                        <b>Subject: </b>[Ext] Re:
                                        [RSSAC Caucus] RSSAC Caucus
                                        Travel Support for IETF 116
                                        Yokohama, Japan</span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Dear All, </p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Please see
                                        results of IETF 104.</p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Results</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Key
                                          String:
                                          15.21.29.35.54.60./6.7.10.11.19.27.37./6739./</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">4.
                                          Daniel Migault</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">6.
                                          Anand Raje</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">11.
                                          Amir Qayyum</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">10.
                                          Alejandro Acosta</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">1.
                                          Robert Story</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">5.
                                          Ihtisham Khalid</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">9. Dr
                                          AbdulkarIm Oloyede</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">2.
                                          Ramanou BIAOU</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">12.
                                          MOHIT BATRA</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">3.
                                          George Russell Mundy</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">14.
                                          Anupam Agrawal</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">8.
                                          Shailesh Gupta</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">13.
                                          Rao Naveed Bin Rais</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">7.
                                          Harish Chowdhary</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p><span style="font-size:9.5pt"> 
                                          The funded travelers are:
                                           Daniel Migault</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt">, <span>Anand
                                            Raje</span>, <span>Amir
                                            Qayyum</span> and <span>Alejandro
                                            Acosta</span></span></p>
                                      <p><span style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Any
                                          suggestions please.</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p><span style="font-size:9.5pt">I
                                          hope travel support should be
                                          even and given to memeber who
                                          never recieved it and based
                                          upon some rationale rather
                                          than a lottery.</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p><span style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p><span style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Thanks,</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Harish
                                          Chowdhary </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"></span></p>
                                      <p><span style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span></p>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 4
                                        Jan, 2023, 9:32 pm Steve Sheng,
                                        <<a href="mailto:steve.sheng@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">steve.sheng@icann.org</a>>
                                        wrote:</p>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote style="border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Dear
                                            RSSAC Caucus,
                                          </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Please
                                            see the result of the random
                                            selection.
                                          </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Source of
                                            Randomness:
                                          </p>
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                                          <div style="margin:0in;text-indent:9.75pt;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span>(<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.luckyforlife.us/winning-numbers/__;!!PtGJab4!9mDotgBboJAnmpYunDz_PyhwSc5vp7UkbR5rj3jEzITkbbyI9bTrf0zD_7nuCL1rcOWWkBvVrH_8r533xO71vXF9h46e0J7GmJw$" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.luckyforlife.us/winning-numbers/
                                                [luckyforlife.us]</a>)</span></div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <div style="margin:0in"><span>   
                                              #3 NASDAQ closing index
                                              (rounded to the nearest
                                              integer) on Tuesday 3
                                              January 2023: 10387</span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span>   
                                              (<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/index/comp__;!!PtGJab4!9mDotgBboJAnmpYunDz_PyhwSc5vp7UkbR5rj3jEzITkbbyI9bTrf0zD_7nuCL1rcOWWkBvVrH_8r533xO71vXF9h46e5NdXnA8$" title="https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/index/comp" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/index/comp
                                                [nasdaq.com]</a>)</span></div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">   
                                            Result:
                                          </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">
                                            5. Anand Raje</p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">
                                            1. Rao Naveed Bin Rais</p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">
                                            3. Hafiz Farooq</p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">
                                            2. Harish Chowdhary</p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">
                                            4. Mallory Knodel</p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Thus,
                                            Anand Raje and Rao Naveed
                                            Bin Rais will receive
                                            funding of IETF 116.
                                          </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Best</p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Steve</p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <div style="border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt">From:
                                                </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt">Steve
                                                Sheng <<a href="mailto:steve.sheng@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">steve.sheng@icann.org</a>><br>
                                                <b>Date: </b>Tuesday,
                                                January 3, 2023 at 9:49
                                                AM<br>
                                                <b>To: </b>Ozan Sahin
                                                <<a href="mailto:ozan.sahin@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ozan.sahin@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rssac-caucus@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rssac-caucus@icann.org</a>><br>
                                                <b>Subject: </b>Re:
                                                [RSSAC Caucus] RSSAC
                                                Caucus Travel Support
                                                for IETF 116 Yokohama,
                                                Japan</span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Dear
                                            RSSAC Caucus,
                                          </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">  Sorry
                                            for the delay in handling
                                            this random selection. Here
                                            is a list of RSSAC Caucus
                                            members to be entered into
                                            the random selection:
                                          </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <ol type="1" start="1">
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Rao Naveed Bin Rais</li>
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Harish Chowdhary</li>
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Hafiz Farooq</li>
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Mallory Knodel</li>
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Anand Raje</li>
                                          </ol>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">  Number
                                            of Slots: 2
                                          </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">  Source
                                            of Randomness:
                                          </p>
                                          <div style="margin:0in"><span>   
                                              #1 Euro Millions Tuesday 3
                                              January 2023</span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px">   
                                            (<span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.euro-jackpot.net/en/euromillions__;!!PtGJab4!9mDotgBboJAnmpYunDz_PyhwSc5vp7UkbR5rj3jEzITkbbyI9bTrf0zD_7nuCL1rcOWWkBvVrH_8r533xO71vXF9h46eJkTjdSc$" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.euro-jackpot.net/en/euromillions
                                                [euro-jackpot.net]</a></span>)</div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in"><span> </span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span>   
                                              #2 US Lucky for Life
                                              Tuesday 3 January 2023</span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;text-indent:9.75pt;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span>(<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.luckyforlife.us/winning-numbers/__;!!PtGJab4!9mDotgBboJAnmpYunDz_PyhwSc5vp7UkbR5rj3jEzITkbbyI9bTrf0zD_7nuCL1rcOWWkBvVrH_8r533xO71vXF9h46e0J7GmJw$" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.luckyforlife.us/winning-numbers/
                                                [luckyforlife.us]</a>)</span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in"><span> </span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span>   
                                              #3 NASDAQ closing index
                                              (rounded to the nearest
                                              integer) on Tuesday 3
                                              January 2023</span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span>   
                                              (<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/index/comp__;!!PtGJab4!9mDotgBboJAnmpYunDz_PyhwSc5vp7UkbR5rj3jEzITkbbyI9bTrf0zD_7nuCL1rcOWWkBvVrH_8r533xO71vXF9h46e5NdXnA8$" title="https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/index/comp" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/index/comp
                                                [nasdaq.com]</a>)</span></div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <div style="margin:0in"><span>A
                                              Publicly Verifiable Random
                                              Selection Process will be
                                              conducted by Staff on Wed
                                              4 January 2023, using the
                                              RFC 3797 method. The
                                              results (as well as other
                                              data) will be announced to
                                              the list on the same day,
                                              after which you can verify
                                              the result yourself.</span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span> </span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span>Best
                                              regards,</span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span>Steve
                                              Sheng</span></div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <div style="border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:
                                                </span></b><span>rssac-caucus
                                                <<a href="mailto:rssac-caucus-bounces@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rssac-caucus-bounces@icann.org</a>> on
                                                behalf of Ozan Sahin
                                                <<a href="mailto:ozan.sahin@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ozan.sahin@icann.org</a>><br>
                                                <b>Date: </b>Wednesday,
                                                December 21, 2022 at
                                                3:37 PM<br>
                                                <b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rssac-caucus@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rssac-caucus@icann.org</a>><br>
                                                <b>Subject: </b>Re:
                                                [RSSAC Caucus] RSSAC
                                                Caucus Travel Support
                                                for IETF 116 Yokohama,
                                                Japan</span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear
                                              RSSAC Caucus Members, </span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>We
                                              have received the
                                              following requests for
                                              travel support to IETF
                                              116.</span></p>
                                          <ol type="1" start="1">
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Rao Naveed Bin Rais</li>
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Harish Chowdhary</li>
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Hafiz Farooq</li>
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Mallory Knodel</li>
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Abdulkarim Oloyede</li>
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Anand Raje</li>
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Dessalegn Yehuala</li>
                                          </ol>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>According
                                              to the RSSAC Caucus IETF
                                              Supported Travelers
                                              Funding Guidelines, RSSAC
                                              Admin Committee is
                                              allocating two trip slots
                                              to the following RSSAC
                                              Caucus members:</span></p>
                                          <ul type="disc">
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Abdulkarim Oloyede</li>
                                            <li class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                              Dessalegn Yehuala</li>
                                          </ul>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>For
                                              the remaining two slots,
                                              we will do a verifiable
                                              random selection as
                                              specified by RFC 3797. </span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>A
                                              Publicly Verifiable Random
                                              Selection Process will be
                                              conducted by Staff on
                                              Thursday 22 December
                                              2022,  using the RFC 3797
                                              method. The results (as
                                              well as other data) will
                                              be announced to the list
                                              on the same day, after
                                              which you can verify the
                                              result yourself.</span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best
                                              regards,</span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="TR">Ozan Sahin</span></p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <div style="border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:
                                                </span></b><span>rssac-caucus
                                                <<a href="mailto:rssac-caucus-bounces@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rssac-caucus-bounces@icann.org</a>> on
                                                behalf of Ozan Sahin
                                                <<a href="mailto:ozan.sahin@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ozan.sahin@icann.org</a>><br>
                                                <b>Date: </b>23
                                                November 2022 Wednesday
                                                17:12<br>
                                                <b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rssac-caucus@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rssac-caucus@icann.org</a>><br>
                                                <b>Subject: </b>[RSSAC
                                                Caucus] RSSAC Caucus
                                                Travel Support for IETF
                                                116 Yokohama, Japan</span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in"><span>Dear
                                              RSSAC Caucus</span><span lang="TR"> members</span><span>,</span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span> </span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span lang="TR">RSSAC Admin
                                              Committee understands that
                                              ICANN organization may be
                                              sharing new sponsered
                                              travel information and
                                              guidancefor ICANN
                                              community to attend
                                              non-ICANN events in the
                                              next weeks. As a result,
                                              travel support to attend
                                              even-numbered IETF
                                              meetings may be available
                                              once again. In order to
                                              not miss the relevant
                                              notice periods, RSSAC
                                              Admin Committee would like
                                              to start the selection
                                              process to identify
                                              sponsered RSSAC Caucus
                                              members to attend the next
                                              IETF meeting.  </span></div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span>IETF
                                              1</span><span lang="TR">1</span><span>6
                                              will take place in
                                            </span><span lang="TR">Yokohama,
                                              Japan</span><span> from
                                            </span><span lang="TR">25</span><span>
                                              - </span>
                                            <span lang="TR">31 March</span><span>
                                              20</span><span lang="TR">23</span><span>.
                                            </span><span lang="TR">Pending
                                              the travel advice from
                                              ICANN organization, t</span><span>here
                                            </span><span lang="TR">may
                                              be</span><span> travel
                                              support for up to four (4)
                                              RSSAC Caucus Members to
                                              attend IETF 1</span><span lang="TR">1</span><span>6
                                              including economy class
                                              airfare, accommodation,
                                              registration, and per
                                              diem. </span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in"><span> </span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in"><span lang="TR">As you may
                                              remember, </span>
                                            <span>RSSAC approved
                                              guidelines for RSSAC
                                              Caucus members requesting
                                              travel support to attend
                                              even</span><span lang="TR">-</span><span>numbered
                                              IETF meetings</span><span lang="TR"> in 2019</span><span>.
                                              Please see the approved
                                              guidelines attached.
                                              Depending on how many
                                              requests we receive, the
                                              RSSAC Administrative
                                              Committee may need to make
                                              the selection based on the
                                              selection criteria
                                              outlined in the
                                              guidelines.</span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in"><span lang="TR"> </span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in"><span>If
                                              you would like to apply
                                              and be considered for
                                              travel support, please
                                              complete the following
                                              form by
                                            </span><b><span lang="TR">Friday</span><span>,
                                              </span></b><b><span lang="TR">2 December
                                                2022</span></b><span>: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/forms.gle/edQvwjYgVLzbgUSS9__;!!PtGJab4!9m5qumXaTDkZtDfXDPP-zysIU68gEAg4fuv297qYkNvBGJLC1gDTvKZwpGg4qH_zumtMvOv4m378Srp6FTjbjSqi10w$" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forms.gle/edQvwjYgVLzbgUSS9
                                                [forms.gle]</a> </span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span> </span></div>
                                          <div style="margin:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span>Best,</span></div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Ozan
                                                  Sahin</span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Policy
                                                </span><span lang="TR">Development
                                                  Support Senior </span><span>Specialist</span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Internet
                                                  Corporation for
                                                  Assigned Names and
                                                  Numbers (ICANN)</span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Mobile:
                                                              +90 533
                                                  641 0007        
                                                        </span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Skype:             
                                                  ozan.sahin.icann</span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span><a href="http://www.icann.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.icann.org</a></span></p>
                                            </div>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
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