[RSS GWG] My action item on "Drawing the Line"

Joe Abley jabley at hopcount.ca
Thu Apr 30 22:01:28 UTC 2020


On 28 Apr 2020, at 21:56, Geoff Huston <gih at apnic.net> wrote:

> Part of the issues we have now is not just the issues of how to add or
> remove service operators but even risks of implicit takeover. If some
> cloud-based back end platform were to provide backend services to a number
> of different distinct service operators, then what is the nature of mutual
> independence of operation? Does mutual independence even matter, if that was
> ever truly the case? As far as I can see, this has nothing to do with add or
> remove a particular service letters anymore. That's a concern of perhaps 10
> of more years in the past.

Well, except that to know precisely how and why to add and drop an operator, then you need know the acceptable constraints of the system as a whole.

That was my point during the other call that I don't think I explained very well -- I think since we accept that

 - we need to know how to drop a provider, since that will surely be necessary in the future
 - we need to know how to add a provider, since same
 - we know that adding and dropping requires us to define the policy parameters of what the system as a whole should exist within

then add/drop might actually provide something like a complete scope for what this governance system is supposed to achieve, under.

I do agree that understanding those policy parameters are the crux of this, but I don't think that's all we need. We also need to understand the add/drop operations, which include compliance and enforcement.


Joe

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