[Rt4-whois] Draft agenda for London - Draft Working Definitions

[Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet]

James M. Bladel wrote:

> Wilifried and Team:
> 
> I would be very cautious about expanding the definition of "Law Enforcement" 
> beyond any organization that has a mandate from the government.  Most of the 
> examples you cite (regulators, etc.) would either qualify themselves under our 
> existing definition, or have a close relationship with a qualifying "Law 
> Enforcement" organization.

If we (can) take that as a common understanding I fully agree.
But then it is no longer a proper "definition"? Raising the question
if this is necessary, in reality, to achieve our goal...

> On the other hand, there are many private or industry organizations (or even 
> individuals) who would assert that they qualify as "Law Enforcement" under the 
> expanded definition, and we should avoid this.

Very valid point.

> Thanks--
> 
> J.

Thanks,
Wilfried.

>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Draft agenda for London - Draft Working
>     Definitions
>     From: "Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" <Woeber at CC.UniVie.ac.at
>     <mailto:Woeber at CC.UniVie.ac.at>>
>     Date: Wed, December 22, 2010 12:11 pm
>     To: Liz Gasster <liz.gasster at icann.org <mailto:liz.gasster at icann.org>>
>     Cc: "rt4-whois at icann.org <mailto:rt4-whois at icann.org>" <rt4-whois at icann.org
>     <mailto:rt4-whois at icann.org>>
> 
>     Dear Liz,
> 
>     thank you for this input, really useful!
> 
>     The topic I consider to be in need of further discussion, and maybe some
>     amendment, is "[Public] Law Enforcement"; in particular regarding entities
>     or organisations that are not fitting the (somewhat narrow) definition off
>     "governmental agencies", but are still performing oversight and investigation
>     duties, according to a legal mandate. (Examples: regulators, government
>     CERTs,...)
> 
>     Regards,
>     Wilfried.
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