From kathy at kathykleiman.com Tue Jun 7 13:33:02 2011 From: kathy at kathykleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 09:33:02 -0400 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Our call next week - preparation In-Reply-To: <8F5F795F-9B0F-4D6E-9F3E-2AA4920A2546@etlaw.co.uk> References: <8F5F795F-9B0F-4D6E-9F3E-2AA4920A2546@etlaw.co.uk> Message-ID: <4DEE288E.1010505@kathykleiman.com> Thanks to Emily for her leadership, and for the agenda that will take us into next week's meeting and the Singapore meeting. The detailed agenda contains a sense of the robust discussion on key issues we hope to have in Singapore, and the new subteams we hope to form to handle these last report issues. In addition, it would be a significant step forward for the first sections of the Final Report to be drafted -- the sections that cover all of the subteams' work to date. Thus, definitional sections for Applicable Laws, Consumer Trust, Law Enforcement and Whois Policy could/should be drafted ahead of time in preparation for our face to face meeting and discussion. Please let us know what you think about the detailed agenda below. In the busy weeks ahead before the meeting, it will be hard to find time to do the work -- yet the consensus of the group is that we would like to start seeing the Final Report begin. Would it be possible for Subteams to write their sections in the next week?? All the best, Kathy Detailed Singapore Draft Agenda (also attached as a Word file in case formatting below is difficult to read): 1. Reports of the Subteams and Review of Subteam Report Sections (draft subteam sections to be distributed prior to Singapore A. Summary of comments received, and how comments incorporated (or not) into this Report B. Review of Subteam's Draft Report Section. Such a Section might include: the Definition (or Policy), background (for newcomers), Subteam's work and how modified based on public comment (in person and written); and why this issue is important in light of the Affirmation of Commitments C. Initial Discussion with Review Team (with additional comments to follow in later meetings). 2. Inventory of Implementation - presentation from the Subteam. A. Presentation B. Discussion of compliance questions and issues C. Subteam overview of next steps and RT discussion 3. Final Report - New Subteams! A. Analysis of Final Report Sections - what the the key ones we need? B. What subteams are needed to draft these sections? C. Does this cover all remaining sections of the Final Report? If not, what else is needed? D. Timelines and deadlines; discussion and goals. E. New subteam meetings (like London) 4. Plan for our outreach sessions. A. Full schedule of all times & rooms for Singapore Meetings B. Discussion/approval of slides for Public Forum Meeting (draft slides to be distributed prior to Singapore) C. Brief discussion of goals/questions/information sought for other outreach meetings, e.g.,: 1. ICANN Board (Sunday) 2. Law Enforcement (Monday after DN abuse session?) 3. Registries/Registrars (special meeting of implementation subteam; policy/compliance questions especially valuable -- and promised as a basis for this meeting - Wed. 2 hours) 4. Update on Intellectual Property and Business Constituency (held by phone on 5/25(?) at request of these constituencies) 5. Advisory Committees and Constituencies not yet met with: ALAC? NCUC? Others? 6. Second meeting with SSAC (?) 7. Second meeting with GAC (?) 8. Brief second meeting with ccNSO (in light of call to them in comments)? 9. Meeting with ICANN Board. 6. Status of Law Enforcement Questionnaire 7. Status of Consumer Trust survey 8. Quick updates from Staff re: Marina del Ray meeting (Sept) and Senegal (Oct) 9. 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I value working with you everyday, and I know that our work serves a very important purpose for ICANN, for the Community and for the Internet. With ICANN Staff, David Maher (chair of the Registries Stakeholder Group) and others we reviewed the appointment to the Review Team. Is the appointment a personal one or a representative one? In the end, I asked David Maher to return to the Registries Stakeholder Group to ask if I should continue or if a current-Registry-representative should be appointed. I wanted to share that it looks as if the Registries will be appointing a new representative; they have asked for volunteers amidst the fulltime Registry community. Emily and I will let you know of their response. Let me share with you my departure statement below, and while I am not saying good-bye yet, I truly want to share with you my great respect and appreciation for every member of our Team, and for our incredible collective effort. We are creating new ground, and I think we are doing it well. All the best, Kathy ------------------------------------------------- The Public Interest Registry announced today that Kathy Kleiman, the Director of Policy, resigned from her position with the company effective May 6, 2011. Kathy leaves PIR to finish her documentary on the work of the ENIAC Programmers, the six women who programmed the first all-electronic, programmable computer during WWII. With the passing of Jean Bartik on March 23^rd , Kathy felt it was critical that she finish her long term project in this area and share this powerful story. PIR appreciates Kathy's contributions to .ORG and the public interest and wishes her well. Kathy can be reached at _kathy at kathykleiman.com _. Her ENIAC Programmers Project can found at _www.eniacprogrammers.org _. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please find enclosed the agenda: * Complete the work on the Issues Paper * Review the draft Singapore agenda circulated by Emily and Kathy * Draft the definitions and policy sections of the outline report for circulation prior to Singapore It may also be found on the public wiki at https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/Call+14+-+8+June+2011 Thanks, Very best regards Alice -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Omar 2011/6/7 Liz Gasster : > Dear All, > > > > I am suggesting some very small edits to the ?clarity of existing policy? > section of your draft Discussion Paper on page 4, and to the first two > questions on your list.? I think that the current language regarding > consensus policies and the ICANN PDP may be slightly difficult for > commenters to understand, and I hope to make the related questions clearer > as well. > > > > I am sorry that I cannot participate on your upcoming call to answer > questions but I am happy to explain further via email. > > > > Best regards, Liz > > > > Liz Gasster > > Senior Policy Counselor > > ICANN > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > > From alice.jansen at icann.org Wed Jun 8 06:18:45 2011 From: alice.jansen at icann.org (Alice Jansen) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 23:18:45 -0700 Subject: [Rt4-whois] REMINDER - Call today at 11:00 UTC Message-ID: Dear Review Team Members, Your next conference call is scheduled for: **Wednesday, 8 June 2011** 11:00 UTC Please check your local time at: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=WHOIS+CALL&iso=20110608T11 Password: 27318 followed by # Adobe room: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/whois-review/ Agenda: https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/Call+14+-+8+June+2011 Audio-cast (silent observers): http://stream.icann.org:8000/whois.m3u Dial-in numbers: Please find below a table which encapsulates dial-in numbers for your countries of residence. Should you be traveling, please refer to the full list which is available at: http://www.adigo.com/icann/ Australia 1 800 009 820 1 800 036 775 Sydney T +61 290372962 Melbourne T +61 399996500 Brisbane T +61 731777546 Austria L - 0 800 295 858 M - 0 800 295 138 T - +43 720 882 638 Belgium L - 0800 79210 M ? 0800 79218 T - +32 78 480 286 Brazil L - 0800 891 1597 M - 0800 891 1598 T - +55 613 717 2040 Canada 1 800 550 6865 T - +1 213 233 3193 France 0800 90 25 56 T - +33 170618347 Germany L - 0800 1016 120 G - M 0800 1016 124 Russia 8 10 8002 535 3011 T - +7 499 650 7835 United Kingdom 0800 032 6646 T - +44 207 099 0867 United States 1 800 550 6865 T - +1 213 233 3193 T ? local toll number ; M ? mobile preferred number ; L ? landline preferred number Please do not hesitate to contact me should you require a dial-out for this call. Thank you, Very best regards Alice Alice E. Jansen -------------------------- ICANN Assistant, Organizational & Affirmation Reviews alice.jansen at icann.org Direct Dial: +32.2.234.78.64 Mobile: +32.4.73.31.76.56 Office Fax: +32.2.234.78.48 Skype: alice_jansen_icann -------------------------- 6, Rond Point Schuman B-1040 Brussels, Belgium -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20110607/ad7be4ae/attachment.html From emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk Wed Jun 8 08:54:55 2011 From: emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk (Emily Taylor) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 09:54:55 +0100 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Notes from 1:1 calls Message-ID: <2076ADD5-D4E2-43FE-AE21-2BBAA16D8B65@etlaw.co.uk> Hi all I've been doing 1:1 calls with many of you over the past few weeks. There are still team members that I have not managed to have calls with. Here are my notes of calls to date. 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URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20110608/4663d958/attachment.html From emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk Wed Jun 8 12:54:40 2011 From: emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk (Emily Taylor) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:54:40 +0100 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Update on budget request (was Re: WHOIS Review Team meeting slot with the Board in Singapore) In-Reply-To: <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD5E9@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> References: <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD5E9@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> Message-ID: Dear Peter Further to your exchange of e-mails with Olof, I have now had the opportunity to discuss with the Review Team our proposal to meet with the Board during the Singapore meeting. Taking account of your other commitments, the Review Team does not consider it essential to meet face to face with the Board at this point. We will of course be happy to provide you with an update on our work, and would welcome board members' input into our Issues Paper which we signed off for publication today. However, one urgent matter which is now hindering our progress is our budget request, which was sent to you on 12 May 2011. On 13 May, you sent an acknowledgement, but since then we have received no information as to the status of our request, or when it will be handled. Please would you confirm that our request is on the agenda of the Finance Committee and will be considered at its next meeting, and give an indication of when we should expect to hear the Committee's decision. Also, should the Finance Committee have any questions or require any clarification, the Review Team will be happy to provide it. Kind regards Emily Taylor PS Please note my correct e-mail address. On 8 Jun 2011, at 11:10, Olof Nordling wrote: > Dear Peter, > Thank you for your mail with constructive suggestions, in which I read a residual possibility for a meeting. Matters have indeed advanced since I wrote the referenced short note to Diane in April, asking for informal advice inter colleagues whether a meeting would be at all possible in view of the presumably full Board agenda in Singapore. If that were the case, a formal request would follow from the WHOIS Review Team Chair to you, as appropriate. > > While not yet being at the draft final report stage, the work of the Review Team is currently at an important juncture, with a discussion document for Singapore soon finalized as well as a pending budget request to the Board. > > I copy this to the current email address of the WHOIS Review Team Chair to facilitate further direct contacts on the appropriate level. > > Very best regards > > Olof > > From: Peter Dengate Thrush [mailto:peter.dengatethrush at icann.org] > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:51 AM > To: Olof Nordling > Cc: Alice Jansen; Denise Michel; Emily.Taylor at nominet.org.uk; Steve Crocker > Subject: Re: WHOIS Review Team meeting slot with the Board in Singapore > > From: Olof Nordling > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 06:56:07 -0700 > To: Diane Schroeder > Cc: Alice Jansen , Denise Michel > Subject: WHOIS Review Team meeting slot with the Board in Singapore > > Dear Diane, > The WHOIS Review Team would wish to have a one hour session with the Board in Singapore ? to seek input for their work and also to report on progress so far. Do you see any such slot in your Singapore crystal ball already ? or do you have a guesstimate on what day that could be doable? > Thanks > Olof > > Dear Olof, > I have reviewed this request and don't feel that at this time a meeting with the Whois Team is necessary. > The board as a body has no particular position on Whois to communicate, and can receive a written progress report from the Review Team at any time. > It is also important that the Review be independent of any suggestion or appearance of board influence. > > If the Review Team has a draft of its final report to discuss, or feels that it need any assistance in preparing that, I would be very ready to facilitate some interaction, but it doesn't seem to me, from your description of the purpose of a meeting, that we are at that stage yet. > > I hope that is not seen as in any way as indicating any lack of appreciation of the work of the Review Team; I and the board are extremely grateful for the work being done. > Whois is both so important - and has been locked at the centre of dispute for so long that the outcome of the Review Team's work is going to be keenly awaited and carefully scrutinised. > I wish the Team success in all that is has to accomplish to meet its deadline. > > My regards > > > Peter > > > > > > > 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Very best regards Olof From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Olof Nordling Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:37 PM To: rt4-whois at icann.org Subject: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version Dear Review Team members, Please find an updated version of the Discussion Paper, as edited at the call earlier today. This is the draft final version, so please read carefully and react promptly if any errors or omissions are found. Very best regards Alice and Olof -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20110608/f9c86c80/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think it?s a great one, but if the group agreed to take it off, I should'n disagree. Omar 2011/6/8 Olof Nordling : > Dear Review Team members, > > Oh well, I found two errors in the version I just posted to you ? apologies > for that, my mistakes. Please replace with the attached version, where they > are corrected. > > Very best regards > > Olof > > > > From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On > Behalf Of Olof Nordling > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:37 PM > To: rt4-whois at icann.org > Subject: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version > > > > Dear Review Team members, > > Please find an updated version of the Discussion Paper, as edited at the > call earlier today. > > This is the draft final version, so please read carefully and react promptly > if any errors or omissions are found. > > Very best regards > > Alice and Olof > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > > From olof.nordling at icann.org Wed Jun 8 14:31:16 2011 From: olof.nordling at icann.org (Olof Nordling) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 07:31:16 -0700 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version In-Reply-To: References: <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD631@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD640@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> Message-ID: <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD661@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> Hi Omar, It was not deleted, just a number change, it's now #3 instead of #4 - the previous #3 was redundant, being identical to previous #5 (now #4). All the best Olof -----Original Message----- From: Omar Kaminski [mailto:omar at kaminski.adv.br] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:12 PM To: Olof Nordling Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version Just confirming, this question was cut off from the Applicable Laws section? "What insight can country code TLDs (ccTLDs) offer on their response to domestic laws and how they have or have not modified their ccTLD WHOIS policies?" I think it?s a great one, but if the group agreed to take it off, I should'n disagree. Omar 2011/6/8 Olof Nordling : > Dear Review Team members, > > Oh well, I found two errors in the version I just posted to you - apologies > for that, my mistakes. Please replace with the attached version, where they > are corrected. > > Very best regards > > Olof > > > > From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On > Behalf Of Olof Nordling > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:37 PM > To: rt4-whois at icann.org > Subject: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version > > > > Dear Review Team members, > > Please find an updated version of the Discussion Paper, as edited at the > call earlier today. > > This is the draft final version, so please read carefully and react promptly > if any errors or omissions are found. > > Very best regards > > Alice and Olof > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > > From omar at kaminski.adv.br Wed Jun 8 14:41:59 2011 From: omar at kaminski.adv.br (Omar Kaminski) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:41:59 -0300 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version In-Reply-To: <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD661@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> References: <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD631@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD640@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD661@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> Message-ID: You're absolutely right, Olof. Questions 3 and 5 on the version #7 are the same, and of course, one was supressed. My mistake, thanks. Omar 2011/6/8 Olof Nordling : > Hi Omar, > It was not deleted, just a number change, it's now #3 instead of #4 - the previous #3 was redundant, being identical to previous #5 (now #4). > All the best > Olof > > -----Original Message----- > From: Omar Kaminski [mailto:omar at kaminski.adv.br] > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:12 PM > To: Olof Nordling > Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org > Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version > > Just confirming, this question was cut off from the Applicable Laws section? > > "What insight can country code TLDs (ccTLDs) offer on their response > to domestic laws and how they have or have not modified their ccTLD > WHOIS policies?" > > I think it?s a great one, but if the group agreed to take it off, I > should'n disagree. > > Omar > > > > 2011/6/8 Olof Nordling : >> Dear Review Team members, >> >> Oh well, I found two errors in the version I just posted to you - apologies >> for that, my mistakes. Please replace with the attached version, where they >> are corrected. >> >> Very best regards >> >> Olof >> >> >> >> From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On >> Behalf Of Olof Nordling >> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:37 PM >> To: rt4-whois at icann.org >> Subject: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version >> >> >> >> Dear Review Team members, >> >> Please find an updated version of the Discussion Paper, as edited at the >> call earlier today. >> >> This is the draft final version, so please read carefully and react promptly >> if any errors or omissions are found. >> >> Very best regards >> >> Alice and Olof >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rt4-whois mailing list >> Rt4-whois at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois >> >> > From kathy at kathykleiman.com Wed Jun 8 15:17:36 2011 From: kathy at kathykleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:17:36 -0400 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version In-Reply-To: <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD661@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> References: <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD631@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD640@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD661@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> Message-ID: <4DEF9290.7000008@kathykleiman.com> Apologies to Emily and All for having to leave the call early today. Tx for a great call and completion of the Discussion Paper. I look forward to hearing how the Community responds. Best, Kathy Hi Omar, > It was not deleted, just a number change, it's now #3 instead of #4 - the previous #3 was redundant, being identical to previous #5 (now #4). > All the best > Olof > > -----Original Message----- > From: Omar Kaminski [mailto:omar at kaminski.adv.br] > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:12 PM > To: Olof Nordling > Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org > Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version > > Just confirming, this question was cut off from the Applicable Laws section? > > "What insight can country code TLDs (ccTLDs) offer on their response > to domestic laws and how they have or have not modified their ccTLD > WHOIS policies?" > > I think it?s a great one, but if the group agreed to take it off, I > should'n disagree. > > Omar > > > > 2011/6/8 Olof Nordling: >> Dear Review Team members, >> >> Oh well, I found two errors in the version I just posted to you - apologies >> for that, my mistakes. Please replace with the attached version, where they >> are corrected. >> >> Very best regards >> >> Olof >> >> >> >> From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On >> Behalf Of Olof Nordling >> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:37 PM >> To: rt4-whois at icann.org >> Subject: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version >> >> >> >> Dear Review Team members, >> >> Please find an updated version of the Discussion Paper, as edited at the >> call earlier today. >> >> This is the draft final version, so please read carefully and react promptly >> if any errors or omissions are found. >> >> Very best regards >> >> Alice and Olof >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rt4-whois mailing list >> Rt4-whois at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois From bill.smith at paypal-inc.com Wed Jun 8 18:07:40 2011 From: bill.smith at paypal-inc.com (Smith, Bill) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 12:07:40 -0600 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Notes from 1:1 calls In-Reply-To: <2076ADD5-D4E2-43FE-AE21-2BBAA16D8B65@etlaw.co.uk> References: <2076ADD5-D4E2-43FE-AE21-2BBAA16D8B65@etlaw.co.uk> Message-ID: <6A052B2F-451D-4040-B70C-698BFB427CCF@paypal.com> I noticed that there is a suggestion for a 3-day face-to-face meeting in MDR in September. I assume that would be around 20-22 Sep. Is that correct? Would there be interest in doing this in Europe? I ask because the following week is the IGF and Nairobi is considerably easier to reach from Europe than the West Coast of the US. I could look into our hosting at one of our EU sites (London, Berlin, Paris) if we are interested. On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Emily Taylor wrote: Hi all I've been doing 1:1 calls with many of you over the past few weeks. There are still team members that I have not managed to have calls with. Here are my notes of calls to date. Best, Emily [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois From Peter.Nettlefold at dbcde.gov.au Thu Jun 9 02:01:19 2011 From: Peter.Nettlefold at dbcde.gov.au (Nettlefold, Peter) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:01:19 +1000 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] In-Reply-To: <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD640@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> References: <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD631@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> <05B243F724B2284986522B6ACD0504D7F8502CD640@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org> Message-ID: <636771A7F4383E408C57A0240B5F8D4A3029030542@EMB01.dept.gov.au> Hi all, Thanks for sending this through so quickly Olof, and thanks to all for contributing to what has become a very good paper. In reading it just now, I noticed a tiny typo in last night's additions (a double space, and also I think a missing 'the'). I also noticed that the applicable laws/privacy heading was sitting at the bottom of a page while all the content was on the next page. I fixed those in track, and I hope they're as uncontroversial as they seemed to me. The only other thing I noticed is two unfinished sentences in the intro which were placeholders for a closing date for submissions and an address to send submissions. I couldn't remember if we'd already discussed this, so I just highlighted the sentences yellow so that they get sorted before it's sent out. Other than that, it all looks good to me and I look forward to seeing responses as they come in. Cheers, Peter From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Olof Nordling Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2011 11:57 PM To: rt4-whois at icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version Dear Review Team members, Oh well, I found two errors in the version I just posted to you - apologies for that, my mistakes. Please replace with the attached version, where they are corrected. Very best regards Olof From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Olof Nordling Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:37 PM To: rt4-whois at icann.org Subject: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version Dear Review Team members, Please find an updated version of the Discussion Paper, as edited at the call earlier today. This is the draft final version, so please read carefully and react promptly if any errors or omissions are found. 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Cheers, Peter From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Nettlefold, Peter Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 12:01 PM To: Olof Nordling; rt4-whois at icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version Hi all, Thanks for sending this through so quickly Olof, and thanks to all for contributing to what has become a very good paper. In reading it just now, I noticed a tiny typo in last night's additions (a double space, and also I think a missing 'the'). I also noticed that the applicable laws/privacy heading was sitting at the bottom of a page while all the content was on the next page. I fixed those in track, and I hope they're as uncontroversial as they seemed to me. The only other thing I noticed is two unfinished sentences in the intro which were placeholders for a closing date for submissions and an address to send submissions. I couldn't remember if we'd already discussed this, so I just highlighted the sentences yellow so that they get sorted before it's sent out. Other than that, it all looks good to me and I look forward to seeing responses as they come in. Cheers, Peter From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Olof Nordling Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2011 11:57 PM To: rt4-whois at icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version Dear Review Team members, Oh well, I found two errors in the version I just posted to you - apologies for that, my mistakes. Please replace with the attached version, where they are corrected. Very best regards Olof From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Olof Nordling Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:37 PM To: rt4-whois at icann.org Subject: [Rt4-whois] Discussion paper, draft final version Dear Review Team members, Please find an updated version of the Discussion Paper, as edited at the call earlier today. This is the draft final version, so please read carefully and react promptly if any errors or omissions are found. Very best regards Alice and Olof ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is for the use of the intended recipient only and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, disclosure, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may result in severe penalties. 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From a personal perspective, of course, I would prefer it to be in Europe ;-) The meeting in MdR has been planned since January - the suggestion in the 1:1s was to make it 3 days rather than 2 days. I think this is sensible, as we will have a lot to do. However, the reasoning behind the original choice of MdR is still relevant: - It's much easier and less costly for ICANN to cover (eg hotel rooms, wireless, and audio streaming), and my understanding is that work has already been done in this regard. - The West Coasters and Peter had dreadful jetlag for the London meeting, Sarmad said it was equally as bad to travel to London or LA, and it was thought to be fairer to make the Europeans suffer for once! I'm not sure, apart from you and me, how many others within the RT are planning to attend this year's IGF in Nairobi? On the assumption that it is only we two attending the IGF, I am in favour of holding the arrangement as is. If it turns out that more of us are heading for Nairobi the following week, then it really does make sense to consider an alternative location within the same time zone. Can I have comments from the other members of the RT please? Best, Emily On 8 Jun 2011, at 19:07, Smith, Bill wrote: > I noticed that there is a suggestion for a 3-day face-to-face meeting in MDR in September. I assume that would be around 20-22 Sep. Is that correct? > > Would there be interest in doing this in Europe? I ask because the following week is the IGF and Nairobi is considerably easier to reach from Europe than the West Coast of the US. I could look into our hosting at one of our EU sites (London, Berlin, Paris) if we are interested. > > On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Emily Taylor wrote: > > Hi all > > I've been doing 1:1 calls with many of you over the past few weeks. There are still team members that I have not managed to have calls with. Here are my notes of calls to date. > > Best, > > Emily > > > [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] > > 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK > telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 > emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20110609/5649a40c/attachment.html From sharon.lemon at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk Thu Jun 9 10:45:23 2011 From: sharon.lemon at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk (LEMON, Sharon) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:45:23 +0100 Subject: [Rt4-whois] September meeting location In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3062FB662B110E4A9F14C63284D07FF7050C6757A308@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED Hello Everyone, I have booked a family holiday around the MDR meeting, so will go in any event (and can only do two days). I think Bill's suggestion is a good one if a number are going to the IGF meeting, so am happy if it is relocated to Europe - but will not be able to attend if it stays on the same date. Sharon Sharon LEMON OBE Deputy Director Cyber and Forensics Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) 07768 290902 0207 855 2800 -----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Emily Taylor Sent: 09 June 2011 10:34 To: Smith, Bill Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org WHOIS Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Notes from 1:1 calls Hi Bill Thanks. You raise a good point about the proximity with the IGF meeting. >From a personal perspective, of course, I would prefer it to be in Europe ;-) The meeting in MdR has been planned since January - the suggestion in the 1:1s was to make it 3 days rather than 2 days. I think this is sensible, as we will have a lot to do. However, the reasoning behind the original choice of MdR is still relevant: - It's much easier and less costly for ICANN to cover (eg hotel rooms, wireless, and audio streaming), and my understanding is that work has already been done in this regard. - The West Coasters and Peter had dreadful jetlag for the London meeting, Sarmad said it was equally as bad to travel to London or LA, and it was thought to be fairer to make the Europeans suffer for once! I'm not sure, apart from you and me, how many others within the RT are planning to attend this year's IGF in Nairobi? On the assumption that it is only we two attending the IGF, I am in favour of holding the arrangement as is. If it turns out that more of us are heading for Nairobi the following week, then it really does make sense to consider an alternative location within the same time zone. Can I have comments from the other members of the RT please? Best, Emily On 8 Jun 2011, at 19:07, Smith, Bill wrote: I noticed that there is a suggestion for a 3-day face-to-face meeting in MDR in September. I assume that would be around 20-22 Sep. Is that correct? Would there be interest in doing this in Europe? I ask because the following week is the IGF and Nairobi is considerably easier to reach from Europe than the West Coast of the US. I could look into our hosting at one of our EU sites (London, Berlin, Paris) if we are interested. On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Emily Taylor wrote: Hi all I've been doing 1:1 calls with many of you over the past few weeks. There are still team members that I have not managed to have calls with. Here are my notes of calls to date. Best, Emily [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Cable&Wireless Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisation's IT Helpdesk. 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On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20110609/50595c80/attachment.html From bill.smith at paypal-inc.com Thu Jun 9 13:02:49 2011 From: bill.smith at paypal-inc.com (Smith, Bill) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:02:49 -0600 Subject: [Rt4-whois] September meeting location In-Reply-To: <3062FB662B110E4A9F14C63284D07FF7050C6757A308@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> References: <3062FB662B110E4A9F14C63284D07FF7050C6757A308@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> Message-ID: <5A57F051-BE47-4613-B088-E6D153026F87@paypal.com> I'd say we keep the meeting in MDR, and make it two days. On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:45 AM, LEMON, Sharon wrote: NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED Hello Everyone, I have booked a family holiday around the MDR meeting, so will go in any event (and can only do two days). I think Bill's suggestion is a good one if a number are going to the IGF meeting, so am happy if it is relocated to Europe - but will not be able to attend if it stays on the same date. Sharon Sharon LEMON OBE Deputy Director Cyber and Forensics Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) 07768 290902 0207 855 2800 -----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Emily Taylor Sent: 09 June 2011 10:34 To: Smith, Bill Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org WHOIS Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Notes from 1:1 calls Hi Bill Thanks. You raise a good point about the proximity with the IGF meeting. From a personal perspective, of course, I would prefer it to be in Europe ;-) The meeting in MdR has been planned since January - the suggestion in the 1:1s was to make it 3 days rather than 2 days. I think this is sensible, as we will have a lot to do. However, the reasoning behind the original choice of MdR is still relevant: - It's much easier and less costly for ICANN to cover (eg hotel rooms, wireless, and audio streaming), and my understanding is that work has already been done in this regard. - The West Coasters and Peter had dreadful jetlag for the London meeting, Sarmad said it was equally as bad to travel to London or LA, and it was thought to be fairer to make the Europeans suffer for once! I'm not sure, apart from you and me, how many others within the RT are planning to attend this year's IGF in Nairobi? On the assumption that it is only we two attending the IGF, I am in favour of holding the arrangement as is. If it turns out that more of us are heading for Nairobi the following week, then it really does make sense to consider an alternative location within the same time zone. Can I have comments from the other members of the RT please? Best, Emily On 8 Jun 2011, at 19:07, Smith, Bill wrote: I noticed that there is a suggestion for a 3-day face-to-face meeting in MDR in September. I assume that would be around 20-22 Sep. Is that correct? Would there be interest in doing this in Europe? I ask because the following week is the IGF and Nairobi is considerably easier to reach from Europe than the West Coast of the US. I could look into our hosting at one of our EU sites (London, Berlin, Paris) if we are interested. On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Emily Taylor wrote: Hi all I've been doing 1:1 calls with many of you over the past few weeks. There are still team members that I have not managed to have calls with. Here are my notes of calls to date. Best, Emily [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Cable&Wireless Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisation?s IT Helpdesk. 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On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. From emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk Thu Jun 9 17:44:57 2011 From: emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk (Emily Taylor) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:44:57 +0100 Subject: [Rt4-whois] September meeting location In-Reply-To: <3062FB662B110E4A9F14C63284D07FF7050C6757A308@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> References: <3062FB662B110E4A9F14C63284D07FF7050C6757A308@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> Message-ID: Dear all Thanks for your feedback. I think we're better off leaving the arrangements as they are, ie MdR 20-22 September. Kind regards Emily On 9 Jun 2011, at 11:45, LEMON, Sharon wrote: > NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED > > Hello Everyone, > > I have booked a family holiday around the MDR meeting, so will go in any event (and can only do two days). I think Bill's suggestion is a good one if a number are going to the IGF meeting, so am happy if it is relocated to Europe - but will not be able to attend if it stays on the same date. > > Sharon > > Sharon LEMON OBE > Deputy Director > Cyber and Forensics > Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) > 07768 290902 > 0207 855 2800 > > -----Original Message----- > From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Emily Taylor > Sent: 09 June 2011 10:34 > To: Smith, Bill > Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org WHOIS > Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Notes from 1:1 calls > > Hi Bill > > Thanks. You raise a good point about the proximity with the IGF meeting. From a personal perspective, of course, I would prefer it to be in Europe ;-) > > The meeting in MdR has been planned since January - the suggestion in the 1:1s was to make it 3 days rather than 2 days. I think this is sensible, as we will have a lot to do. > > However, the reasoning behind the original choice of MdR is still relevant: > > - It's much easier and less costly for ICANN to cover (eg hotel rooms, wireless, and audio streaming), and my understanding is that work has already been done in this regard. > - The West Coasters and Peter had dreadful jetlag for the London meeting, Sarmad said it was equally as bad to travel to London or LA, and it was thought to be fairer to make the Europeans suffer for once! > > I'm not sure, apart from you and me, how many others within the RT are planning to attend this year's IGF in Nairobi? > > On the assumption that it is only we two attending the IGF, I am in favour of holding the arrangement as is. If it turns out that more of us are heading for Nairobi the following week, then it really does make sense to consider an alternative location within the same time zone. > > Can I have comments from the other members of the RT please? > > Best, > > Emily > > On 8 Jun 2011, at 19:07, Smith, Bill wrote: > >> I noticed that there is a suggestion for a 3-day face-to-face meeting in MDR in September. I assume that would be around 20-22 Sep. Is that correct? >> >> Would there be interest in doing this in Europe? I ask because the following week is the IGF and Nairobi is considerably easier to reach from Europe than the West Coast of the US. I could look into our hosting at one of our EU sites (London, Berlin, Paris) if we are interested. >> >> On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Emily Taylor wrote: >> >> Hi all >> >> I've been doing 1:1 calls with many of you over the past few weeks. There are still team members that I have not managed to have calls with. Here are my notes of calls to date. >> >> Best, >> >> Emily >> >> >> [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] >> >> 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK >> telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 >> emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rt4-whois mailing list >> Rt4-whois at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rt4-whois mailing list >> Rt4-whois at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > > > 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK > telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 > emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk > > > > This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Cable&Wireless Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) 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URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20110609/f06bac2a/attachment.html From omar at kaminski.adv.br Thu Jun 9 17:52:50 2011 From: omar at kaminski.adv.br (Omar Kaminski) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:52:50 -0300 Subject: [Rt4-whois] September meeting location In-Reply-To: References: <3062FB662B110E4A9F14C63284D07FF7050C6757A308@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> Message-ID: Dear all, I don't have a special preference or idea, since I'm not attending the IGF this year. Omar 2011/6/9 Emily Taylor > Dear all > > Thanks for your feedback. I think we're better off leaving the > arrangements as they are, ie MdR 20-22 September. > > Kind regards > > Emily > > On 9 Jun 2011, at 11:45, LEMON, Sharon wrote: > > *NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED * > Hello Everyone, > > I have booked a family holiday around the MDR meeting, so will go in any > event (and can only do two days). I think Bill's suggestion is a good one > if a number are going to the IGF meeting, so am happy if it is relocated to > Europe - but will not be able to attend if it stays on the same date. > > Sharon > > > Sharon LEMON OBE > Deputy Director > Cyber and Forensics > Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) > 07768 290902 > 0207 855 2800 > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] *On > Behalf Of *Emily Taylor > *Sent:* 09 June 2011 10:34 > *To:* Smith, Bill > *Cc:* rt4-whois at icann.org WHOIS > *Subject:* Re: [Rt4-whois] Notes from 1:1 calls > > Hi Bill > > Thanks. You raise a good point about the proximity with the IGF meeting. > From a personal perspective, of course, I would prefer it to be in Europe > ;-) > > The meeting in MdR has been planned since January - the suggestion in the > 1:1s was to make it 3 days rather than 2 days. I think this is sensible, as > we will have a lot to do. > > However, the reasoning behind the original choice of MdR is still relevant: > > - It's much easier and less costly for ICANN to cover (eg hotel rooms, > wireless, and audio streaming), and my understanding is that work has > already been done in this regard. > - The West Coasters and Peter had dreadful jetlag for the London > meeting, Sarmad said it was equally as bad to travel to London or LA, and > it was thought to be fairer to make the Europeans suffer for once! > > I'm not sure, apart from you and me, how many others within the RT are > planning to attend this year's IGF in Nairobi? > > On the assumption that it is only we two attending the IGF, I am in favour > of holding the arrangement as is. If it turns out that more of us are > heading for Nairobi the following week, then it really does make sense to > consider an alternative location within the same time zone. > > Can I have comments from the other members of the RT please? > > Best, > > Emily > > On 8 Jun 2011, at 19:07, Smith, Bill wrote: > > I noticed that there is a suggestion for a 3-day face-to-face meeting in > MDR in September. I assume that would be around 20-22 Sep. Is that correct? > > Would there be interest in doing this in Europe? I ask because the > following week is the IGF and Nairobi is considerably easier to reach from > Europe than the West Coast of the US. I could look into our hosting at one > of our EU sites (London, Berlin, Paris) if we are interested. > > On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Emily Taylor wrote: > > Hi all > > I've been doing 1:1 calls with many of you over the past few weeks. There > are still team members that I have not managed to have calls with. Here are > my notes of calls to date. > > Best, > > Emily > > > [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] > > 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK > telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 > emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk> > www.etlaw.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois at icann.org> > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > > > [image: Emily Taylor Consultant (Internet Law and Governance)] > > 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK > telephone: *01865 582 811* mobile: *07540 049 322* > emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk > > > This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the Government > Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Cable&Wireless Worldwide in > partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) 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URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20110609/fedfdcd4/attachment.html From alice.jansen at icann.org Fri Jun 10 06:18:18 2011 From: alice.jansen at icann.org (Alice Jansen) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:18:18 -0700 Subject: [Rt4-whois] September meeting location In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Emily, Per the doodle poll and as stated in the teleconference schedule https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/TeleConferences, the dates of the Marina del Rey meeting are: 20-21 September Thanks, Best regards Alice From: Emily Taylor > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:44:57 -0700 To: "LEMON, Sharon" > Cc: "rt4-whois at icann.org WHOIS" > Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] September meeting location Dear all Thanks for your feedback. I think we're better off leaving the arrangements as they are, ie MdR 20-22 September. Kind regards Emily On 9 Jun 2011, at 11:45, LEMON, Sharon wrote: NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED Hello Everyone, I have booked a family holiday around the MDR meeting, so will go in any event (and can only do two days). I think Bill's suggestion is a good one if a number are going to the IGF meeting, so am happy if it is relocated to Europe - but will not be able to attend if it stays on the same date. Sharon Sharon LEMON OBE Deputy Director Cyber and Forensics Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) 07768 290902 0207 855 2800 -----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Emily Taylor Sent: 09 June 2011 10:34 To: Smith, Bill Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org WHOIS Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Notes from 1:1 calls Hi Bill Thanks. You raise a good point about the proximity with the IGF meeting. From a personal perspective, of course, I would prefer it to be in Europe ;-) The meeting in MdR has been planned since January - the suggestion in the 1:1s was to make it 3 days rather than 2 days. I think this is sensible, as we will have a lot to do. However, the reasoning behind the original choice of MdR is still relevant: - It's much easier and less costly for ICANN to cover (eg hotel rooms, wireless, and audio streaming), and my understanding is that work has already been done in this regard. - The West Coasters and Peter had dreadful jetlag for the London meeting, Sarmad said it was equally as bad to travel to London or LA, and it was thought to be fairer to make the Europeans suffer for once! I'm not sure, apart from you and me, how many others within the RT are planning to attend this year's IGF in Nairobi? On the assumption that it is only we two attending the IGF, I am in favour of holding the arrangement as is. If it turns out that more of us are heading for Nairobi the following week, then it really does make sense to consider an alternative location within the same time zone. Can I have comments from the other members of the RT please? Best, Emily On 8 Jun 2011, at 19:07, Smith, Bill wrote: I noticed that there is a suggestion for a 3-day face-to-face meeting in MDR in September. I assume that would be around 20-22 Sep. Is that correct? Would there be interest in doing this in Europe? I ask because the following week is the IGF and Nairobi is considerably easier to reach from Europe than the West Coast of the US. I could look into our hosting at one of our EU sites (London, Berlin, Paris) if we are interested. On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Emily Taylor wrote: Hi all I've been doing 1:1 calls with many of you over the past few weeks. There are still team members that I have not managed to have calls with. Here are my notes of calls to date. Best, Emily [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Cable&Wireless Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisation?s IT Helpdesk. 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On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20110609/1f7e38bf/attachment.html From emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk Fri Jun 10 06:26:40 2011 From: emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk (Emily Taylor) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:26:40 +0100 Subject: [Rt4-whois] September meeting location In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for this clarification Alice Everyone - these are the dates for your diary, if they are not already in it! Kind regards Emily On 10 Jun 2011, at 07:18, Alice Jansen wrote: > Hi Emily, > > Per the doodle poll and as stated in the teleconference schedule https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/TeleConferences, the dates of the Marina del Rey meeting are: > 20-21 September > > Thanks, > > Best regards > > Alice > > From: Emily Taylor > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:44:57 -0700 > To: "LEMON, Sharon" > Cc: "rt4-whois at icann.org WHOIS" > Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] September meeting location > > Dear all > > Thanks for your feedback. I think we're better off leaving the arrangements as they are, ie MdR 20-22 September. > > Kind regards > > Emily > > On 9 Jun 2011, at 11:45, LEMON, Sharon wrote: > >> NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I have booked a family holiday around the MDR meeting, so will go in any event (and can only do two days). I think Bill's suggestion is a good one if a number are going to the IGF meeting, so am happy if it is relocated to Europe - but will not be able to attend if it stays on the same date. >> >> Sharon >> >> Sharon LEMON OBE >> Deputy Director >> Cyber and Forensics >> Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) >> 07768 290902 >> 0207 855 2800 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Emily Taylor >>> Sent: 09 June 2011 10:34 >>> To: Smith, Bill >>> Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org WHOIS >>> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Notes from 1:1 calls >>> >>> Hi Bill >>> >>> Thanks. You raise a good point about the proximity with the IGF meeting. From a personal perspective, of course, I would prefer it to be in Europe ;-) >>> >>> The meeting in MdR has been planned since January - the suggestion in the 1:1s was to make it 3 days rather than 2 days. I think this is sensible, as we will have a lot to do. >>> >>> However, the reasoning behind the original choice of MdR is still relevant: >>> >>> - It's much easier and less costly for ICANN to cover (eg hotel rooms, wireless, and audio streaming), and my understanding is that work has already been done in this regard. >>> - The West Coasters and Peter had dreadful jetlag for the London meeting, Sarmad said it was equally as bad to travel to London or LA, and it was thought to be fairer to make the Europeans suffer for once! >>> >>> I'm not sure, apart from you and me, how many others within the RT are planning to attend this year's IGF in Nairobi? >>> >>> On the assumption that it is only we two attending the IGF, I am in favour of holding the arrangement as is. If it turns out that more of us are heading for Nairobi the following week, then it really does make sense to consider an alternative location within the same time zone. >>> >>> Can I have comments from the other members of the RT please? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Emily >>> >>> On 8 Jun 2011, at 19:07, Smith, Bill wrote: >>> >>>> I noticed that there is a suggestion for a 3-day face-to-face meeting in MDR in September. I assume that would be around 20-22 Sep. Is that correct? >>>> >>>> Would there be interest in doing this in Europe? I ask because the following week is the IGF and Nairobi is considerably easier to reach from Europe than the West Coast of the US. I could look into our hosting at one of our EU sites (London, Berlin, Paris) if we are interested. >>>> >>>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Emily Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I've been doing 1:1 calls with many of you over the past few weeks. There are still team members that I have not managed to have calls with. Here are my notes of calls to date. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Emily >>>> >>>> >>>> [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/logo310.gif] >>>> >>>> 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK >>>> telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 >>>> emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rt4-whois mailing list >>>> Rt4-whois at icann.org >>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rt4-whois mailing list >>>> Rt4-whois at icann.org >>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois >>> >>> >>> 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK >>> telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 >>> emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Cable&Wireless Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisation?s IT Helpdesk. >>> Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. >>> All E-Mail sent and received by SOCA is scanned and subject to assessment. Messages sent or received by SOCA staff are not private and may be the subject of lawful business monitoring. E-Mail may be passed at any time and without notice to an appropriate branch within SOCA, on authority from the Director General or his Deputy for analysis. This E-Mail and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender as soon as possible. >> This information is supplied in confidence by SOCA, and is exempt from disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. It may also be subject to exemption under other UK legislation. 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URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20110610/40838d2e/attachment.html From emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk Sat Jun 11 06:43:53 2011 From: emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk (Emily Taylor) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 07:43:53 +0100 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Kathy Kleiman and the Whois Review Team In-Reply-To: <504F95D0035A264EBB1BFAABAA772B950115CA@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <3371CBBD15D9714482943AD5D5B75276058C9E47B4@pir-mail-01> <504F95D0035A264EBB1BFAABAA772B950115CA@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Message-ID: <31A2C92A-DBA7-4417-80E2-6E9475369052@etlaw.co.uk> Dear Keith Thank you for your message. On behalf of the Review Team, I am delighted to hear that Kathy will be continuing in her role as Vice Chair. As you say, she is an excellent resource, and a valued colleague within the Team. Look forward to our meetings with the RySG at ICANN Singapore. Kind regards Emily On 10 Jun 2011, at 23:20, Drazek, Keith wrote: > Hello Emily and Kathy, > > In my capacity as the Alternate Chair of the Registries Stakeholder Group, I?m pleased to advise that the RySG supports Kathy?s continuation in her role as Vice Chair of the Whois Review Team. > > We are confident that Kathy will continue to be an excellent resource to the Whois Review Team, while also ensuring effective communication of registry operators? perspectives during this important process. > > We appreciate your patience during our consideration of this issue. Please let me know if you have any further questions. > > Thanks and regards, > > Keith > > > Keith Drazek > Director of Policy > kdrazek at Verisign.com > > m: +1-571-377-9182 > 21345 Ridgetop Circle Dulles, VA 20166 > > VerisignInc.com > > > > From: David W. Maher [mailto:dmaher at pir.org] > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 12:09 PM > To: Kathy at KathyKleiman.com > Cc: Emily Taylor; Drazek, Keith > Subject: > > Kathy: > The RySG would like to invite you to the regular RySG teleconference to discuss your role in the Whois Review Team. The meeting time is 10-12 EDT on Wednesday 8 June. > If you are available, could you let Keith Drazek know? > I am on vacation from Monday, and Keith will be acting as alternate Chair of the meeting. > Best regards, > David > David W. Maher > Senior Vice President - Law & Policy > Public Interest Registry > +1 312 375 4849 > 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 emily.taylor at etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20110611/8a552827/attachment.html