From alice.jansen at icann.org  Mon Oct 24 07:25:14 2011
From: alice.jansen at icann.org (Alice Jansen)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:25:14 -0700
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Where do I need to be today? MONDAY
In-Reply-To: <CAC97B3B.10D42%alice.jansen@icann.org>
Message-ID: <CACAC2E7.10E14%alice.jansen@icann.org>

13:00-17:00
WHOIS Policy Review Team Working Session

Where: Meridien President ? Ziquinchor
Session details:http://dakar42.icann.org/node/27223
Adobe room:http://icann.adobeconnect.com/dkr42-ziquinchor

Please refer to outlook invitations for remote participation details or https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreviewprivate/Dakar+-+Bridge+details
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From emily at emilytaylor.eu  Mon Oct 24 07:46:50 2011
From: emily at emilytaylor.eu (Emily Taylor)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:46:50 +0100
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Fw: ALAC took this survey today [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
In-Reply-To: <636771A7F4383E408C57A0240B5F8D4A333D64221A@EMB01.dept.gov.au>
References: <636771A7F4383E408C57A0240B5F8D4A333D64221A@EMB01.dept.gov.au>
Message-ID: <CAKWYFsfLxqHb+NFYT_5Ab9CqbRvbqbCcNxrHFXuo5m_5cKAnFg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Peter

Thanks - this is priceless!

E

On 23 October 2011 21:44, Nettlefold, Peter
<Peter.Nettlefold at dbcde.gov.au>wrote:

>  Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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>  *From*: martinsutton at hsbc.com [mailto:martinsutton at hsbc.com]
> *Sent*: Monday, October 24, 2011 04:47 AM
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> *Subject*: Fw: ALAC took this survey today
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>  For those of you staying at the Almadies, hopefully this will give you a
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From alice.jansen at icann.org  Mon Oct 24 10:38:01 2011
From: alice.jansen at icann.org (Alice Jansen)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:38:01 -0700
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Outcome - session Sunday
Message-ID: <CACAF089.10EAA%alice.jansen@icann.org>

Dear Review Team Members,

Please find attached the outcome of your session held on Sunday:

- Recommendations ? Dakar - V1
Also available at: https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreviewprivate/Draft+Recommendations

- Brainstorming session ? V2
Also available at: https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreviewprivate/Brainstorming+in+Dakar

Note that ICANN Compliance Staff will join your session today at 13:00.

Very best regards

Alice
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From alice.jansen at icann.org  Mon Oct 24 14:39:18 2011
From: alice.jansen at icann.org (Alice Jansen)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:39:18 -0700
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Document Bill - Kathy - Peter
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From alice.jansen at icann.org  Mon Oct 24 15:39:08 2011
From: alice.jansen at icann.org (Alice Jansen)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:39:08 -0700
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Detente including Sarmad's comments
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From lutz at iks-jena.de  Mon Oct 24 15:58:33 2011
From: lutz at iks-jena.de (Lutz Donnerhacke)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:58:33 +0200
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Privacy and proxy definitions in the RAA envorinment
In-Reply-To: <CACB2916.10EF1%alice.jansen@icann.org>
References: <CACB2916.10EF1%alice.jansen@icann.org>
Message-ID: <20111024155833.GA21271@belenus.iks-jena.de>

http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/registrant-rights-responsibilities-en.htm

Escrow of Registered Name Holder Data

A Registrar is required to maintain a database of all Whois data for all
Registered Names registered through the Registrar?s accreditation, as well
as all data the Registrar submits to the Registry Operator. In addition, the
Registrar must include in the database the name and (where available) postal
address, e-mail address, voice telephone number, and fax number of the
billing contact for each Registered Name.

In some instances, a registrant may choose to limit the amount of personal
information that a Registrar makes available in a Whois query. To do so, the
name may be registered through a privacy service (allowing a registrant to
conceal personal identifying information and often replacing it with the
information of the privacy service). Customers may also choose to register
names through a proxy service, where the proxy service is the Registered
Name Holder, and the proxy service licenses the use of the domain name to
the customer. In that situation, the proxy service, as the Registered Name
Holder, has its information listed for most or all required data points.

When a Registered Name is registered through a privacy or proxy registration
service, that affects the information that is placed in the database, and a
Registrar must do one of two things: The Registrar must either (1) include
in the database the name and postal address, e-mail address, and voice
telephone number provided by the customer in connection with each
registration, even when a privacy or proxy registration is used; or (2) at
the time that a customer elects to use a privacy or proxy registration
service, display a notice that the customer?s data is not being escrowed.
When a customer?s data is not being escrowed, only the contact information
associated with the privacy or proxy registration service will be escrowed.
If a customer?s data is not escrowed, and only the information of the proxy
or privacy service is maintained in the database, in the event of Registrar
or Registry failure future notices may only be sent to the contact
information within the database.


From lutz at iks-jena.de  Mon Oct 24 16:51:37 2011
From: lutz at iks-jena.de (Lutz Donnerhacke)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:51:37 +0200
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Proposal for privacy
Message-ID: <20111024165137.GA23341@belenus.iks-jena.de>

Privacy services must provide phone and email contacts to be put into the whois record which are available and responsive as requried by the framework mentioned above


From emily at emilytaylor.eu  Tue Oct 25 04:59:54 2011
From: emily at emilytaylor.eu (Emily Taylor)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 06:59:54 +0200
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Well done and thank you
Message-ID: <CFBDBC58-552E-478C-A2EA-88268D06A7F9@emilytaylor.eu>

Hi all

Phew!  Amazing work everyone and especially Bill Kathy and Peter for overcoming your differences and producing such great text overnight. 

It was painful at times, we all lost it at least once but we kept going and can be proud of our achievement on this subject which has dogged the ICANN community forever, it seems. 

There is still much to do. There is a huge editing job gaps in the text etc. But let's take a moment to say well done to ourselves and to each other. We worked hard and kept going. 

Lastly thanks to Alice and Olof for scribing - a very challenging job. 

Great work. Look forward to our next call and then we can figure out how to progress. I'm going to send in a mark up with suggested edits.  Will also draft up a letter for compliance from us. 

That's it from a rainy and dark Charles de Gaulle airport. Have a good week all - I'm off to Ramsgate to walk by the sea with my family and dog for two days. 

Best

Emily

Sent from my iPhone


From alice.jansen at icann.org  Tue Oct 25 11:21:15 2011
From: alice.jansen at icann.org (Alice Jansen)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 04:21:15 -0700
Subject: [Rt4-whois] WHOIS-SSAC - no session
Message-ID: <CACC4C2B.10FB3%alice.jansen@icann.org>

Dear Review Team Members,

Please do not go to the SSAC room.
Per your decision to cancel all SO/AC sessions in Dakar (reached in MdR), this session is not taking place.
The slot was not removed from the public schedule which I believe is the reason for the confusion.

Thanks,

Best regards

Alice
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From alice.jansen at icann.org  Tue Oct 25 12:49:24 2011
From: alice.jansen at icann.org (Alice Jansen)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 05:49:24 -0700
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Shuttle - airport
Message-ID: <CACC60D4.10FD9%alice.jansen@icann.org>

Dear Review Team Members,

Please use this address - secretariat at icann42dakar.sn <secretariat at icann42dakar.sn> - to request airport shuttle services.

Thanks,

Best regards

Alice
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From alice.jansen at icann.org  Wed Oct 26 13:15:40 2011
From: alice.jansen at icann.org (Alice Jansen)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:15:40 -0700
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Outcome - session Monday
In-Reply-To: <CACAF089.10EAA%alice.jansen@icann.org>
Message-ID: <CACD93F3.11046%alice.jansen@icann.org>

Dear Review Team Members,

Many thanks once again for a very fruitful session held in Dakar. It was a pleasure to see you all.

Please find attached the outcome of your session held on Monday:

- Findings, conclusions, definitions
Also available at: https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreviewprivate/Draft+Recommendations

Note that our next conference call is scheduled for Wednesday, 9 November ? 11:00 UTC.

I wish you all a safe journey home.

Thanks,
Very best regards

Alice
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From denise.michel at icann.org  Thu Oct 27 11:08:25 2011
From: denise.michel at icann.org (Denise Michel)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:08:25 +0000
Subject: [Rt4-whois] IDNs
Message-ID: <CAPcHvQE1kuQ80hdL83KwDu_qfwb_eKSsmunD9fmhQLxoT6XsRw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Team members,

Attached is ICANN Staff's response to the IDN-related questions you conveyed
last month.

Please let me know if you need additional information.

Regards,
Denise

Denise Michel
ICANN
Advisor to the President & CEO
denise.michel at icann.org
+1.408.429.3072 mobile
+1.310.578.8632 direct
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From kathy at kathykleiman.com  Thu Oct 27 17:22:24 2011
From: kathy at kathykleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:22:24 -0400
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Outcome - session Monday
In-Reply-To: <CACD93F3.11046%alice.jansen@icann.org>
References: <CACD93F3.11046%alice.jansen@icann.org>
Message-ID: <4EA99350.8050108@kathykleiman.com>

Tx Alice for this information. We truly appreciate all you and Olof did 
to help us in Dakar!

All, thank you for our meeting in Dakar! Our three days of  meetings 
felt like one contiguous meeting as we moved towards consensus on our 
Recommendations. I appreciate all everyone did, and thanks to those who 
dialed in by phone. I think we made some good progress, and I feel I see 
the light at the end of the tunnel as we approach the end of our work. I 
appreciate Emily's email after the meeting.

I'll share a quick update on my status (and would love to hear about 
others). I left at 5am on Wed, and am now home, safe and sound (and 
watched a lovely movie called Chocolat on the way home). It is rainy and 
chilly in Washington DC, and so I miss the warmth of Dakar.

Here's hoping your travels home are easy and safe,
Kathy

:
> Dear Review Team Members,
>
> Many thanks once again for a very fruitful session held in Dakar. It 
> was a pleasure to see you all.
>
> Please find attached the outcome of your session held on Monday:
>
> - Findings, conclusions, definitions
> Also available at: 
> https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreviewprivate/Draft+Recommendations
>
> Note that our next conference call is scheduled for Wednesday, 9 
> November -- 11:00 UTC.
>
> I wish you all a safe journey home.
>
> Thanks,
> Very best regards
>
> Alice
>
>
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From omar at kaminski.adv.br  Thu Oct 27 18:53:55 2011
From: omar at kaminski.adv.br (Omar Kaminski)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:53:55 -0200
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Outcome - session Monday
In-Reply-To: <4EA99350.8050108@kathykleiman.com>
References: <CACD93F3.11046%alice.jansen@icann.org>
	<4EA99350.8050108@kathykleiman.com>
Message-ID: <CAD48TT-D35dZO+o=rmORJ_ee65=fdwTN+N+L5eod1scgGpGkqw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear RT,

I hope everything is (or went) well at Dakar.

I'm sorry I wasn't able to participate even by phone. I'm having a
whole week course at Rio de Janeiro about IT Governance and a digital
certification workshop.

I'll wait for the reports, feedbacks and decisions that took place in Africa.

I wish all of you a safe trip back.

Best regards from .br,

Omar


2011/10/27 Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>:
> Tx Alice for this information. We truly appreciate all you and Olof did to
> help us in Dakar!
>
> All, thank you for our meeting in Dakar! Our three days of? meetings felt
> like one contiguous meeting as we moved towards consensus on our
> Recommendations. I appreciate all everyone did, and thanks to those who
> dialed in by phone. I think we made some good progress, and I feel I see the
> light at the end of the tunnel as we approach the end of our work. I
> appreciate Emily's email after the meeting.
>
> I'll share a quick update on my status (and would love to hear about
> others). I left at 5am on Wed, and am now home, safe and sound (and watched
> a lovely movie called Chocolat on the way home). It is rainy and chilly in
> Washington DC, and so I miss the warmth of Dakar.
>
> Here's hoping your travels home are easy and safe,
> Kathy
>
> :
>
> Dear Review Team Members,
> Many thanks once again for a very fruitful session held in Dakar. It was a
> pleasure to see you all.
> Please find attached the outcome of your session held on Monday:
> - Findings, conclusions, definitions
> Also available
> at:?https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreviewprivate/Draft+Recommendations
> Note that our next conference call is scheduled for Wednesday, 9 November ?
> 11:00 UTC.
> I wish you all a safe journey home.
> Thanks,
> Very best regards
> Alice
>
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> Rt4-whois at icann.org
> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
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