[Rt4-whois] Scope__Defintiions_-_a_newly_expanded_chapter (2)(smr rev) (Repaired)

[Emily Taylor]

Hi - Just came across this in my drafts folder dated 8 November. Not sure
if I sent it through.

Emily

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Hi all

Following up on Seth's editing job, and other comments, I have reviewed the
text, and made some edits, which are tracked in the attached.

I think this revised chapter is good, and should replace the one in the
consolidated draft report.

Best,

Emily


On 20 October 2011 14:08, Alice Jansen <alice.jansen at icann.org> wrote:

> Many thanks, Sharon, for your prompt response.
> I have edited the report accordingly.
> The latest version is now available on the wiki:
> https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreviewprivate/Draft+report
>
> Very best
>
> Alice
>
> From: "LEMON, Sharon" <sharon.lemon at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk>
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 05:14:54 -0700
> To: Alice Jansen <alice.jansen at icann.org>, Kathy Kleiman <
> kathy at kathykleiman.com>
> Cc: 'Emily Taylor' <emily at emilytaylor.eu>, Sharon Lemon <
> sharonchallis at aol.com>
> Subject: RE: Scope__Defintiions_-_a_newly_expanded_chapter (2)(smr rev)
> (Repaired)
>
> *NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED *
> Alice,
>
> Thank you, that is very thoughtful of you.  I have no problems with Seth's
> changes to the Law Enforcement defintion .  Emily worked on the other
> definitions, so will have a view on Seth's work on those.
>
> Sharon
>
>
>
> Sharon LEMON OBE
> Deputy Director
> Cyber and Forensics
> Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA)
> 07768 290902
> 0207 855 2800
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Alice Jansen [mailto:alice.jansen at icann.org<alice.jansen at icann.org>]
>
> *Sent:* 20 October 2011 13:06
> *To:* Kathy Kleiman
> *Cc:* 'Emily Taylor'; LEMON, Sharon; Sharon Lemon
> *Subject:* Re: Scope__Defintiions_-_a_newly_expanded_chapter (2)(smr rev)
> (Repaired)
>
> Hello there,
>
> I have posted Seth's edits on the wiki in the chapter section
> https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreviewprivate/Scope+Chapter.
> Seth seems to be proposing significant changes to Sharon's definition
> section. Hence I would rather have Sharon's greenlight/feedback before
> proceeding with the editing of the master document.
> Sharon, what are your views on Seth's amendments?
>
> Thanks for your understanding,
>
> Best
>
> Alice
>
>  From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:32:42 -0700
> To: Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss at lex-ip.com>
> Cc: 'Emily Taylor' <emily at emilytaylor.eu>, "'LEMON, Sharon'" <
> sharon.lemon at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk>, Sharon Lemon <sharonchallis at aol.com>,
> Alice Jansen <alice.jansen at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: Scope__Defintiions_-_a_newly_expanded_chapter (2)(smr rev)
> (Repaired)
>
>  Thanks Seth and safe travels!  You worry about arriving safely, and
> we'll worry about pulling all your good work into the report.
> Hope it's a good trip and thanks,
> Kathy
> :
>
>  OK, I am about to jump on my plane.  I have about 36 hours of planes and
> airports ahead of me – I wonder if this might be an ICANN record?****
>
> ****
>
> I think I addressed Emily’s concerns, which I thought were good ones.  I
> am not sure how to integrate this or post it to the private WIKI so if it’s
> appropriate to post, perhaps one of you could do that for me.****
>
> ****
>
> See you in Dakar.****
>
> ****
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> *From:* Emily Taylor [mailto:emily at emilytaylor.eu <emily at emilytaylor.eu>]
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:58 PM
> *To:* Seth M Reiss
> *Cc:* LEMON, Sharon; sharonchallis at aol.com; Kathy Kleiman
> *Subject:* Re: Scope__Defintiions_-_a_newly_expanded_chapter (2)(smr rev)
> (Repaired)****
>
> ****
>
> Hi all
>
> Thanks Seth - I think this section is taking shape.
>
> Two general points:
>
> 1. We need somewhere a link (to an annex? or something) which explains
> that we consulted on the definitions, got feedback, and took it into
> account - these are the product of our own discussions and community input.
>
> 2. Acknowledge SSAC as the source of those final definitions. Either
> delete the acronyms, or else say that we found the concepts useful but the
> terms not so much - because they are so similar to one another.  So, in the
> report we talk about the protocol, the service and the whois data.  I had
> an offiline with Jim Galvin about this, and he fully understood that the
> definition labels (if I can put it like that) were not that helpful. It
> doesn't detract from the fact that the descriptions are good.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Emily
>
>
> ****
>
> On 17 October 2011 01:55, Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss at lex-ip.com> wrote:****
>
> OK, here I go trying to step on toes.  Let me know if it hurts J.  ****
>
> ****
>
> Instead of reworking the definitions in Sharon’s original section, I
> worked on Kathy’s rework of Sharon’s section and added in the definitions
> that I think Wilfried may have developed from the SSAC report.****
>
> ****
>
> I noted a discrepancy in the definition of consumer from Sharon’s to
> Kathy’s draft.  Not sure if I am missing something here.****
>
> ****
>
> Hope this helps.****
>
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