From omar at kaminski.adv.br Mon May 14 03:57:26 2012 From: omar at kaminski.adv.br (Omar Kaminski) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 00:57:26 -0300 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Fwd: [At-Large] [WHOIS-WG] Fwd: WHOIS Policy Review Team Final Report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: More good inputs. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Alan Greenberg Date: 2012/5/13 Subject: Re: [At-Large] [WHOIS-WG] Fwd: WHOIS Policy Review Team Final Report To: At-Large Worldwide , Carlton Samuels Cc: "" I thought it was a masterful job of side-stepping the controversial issues, placing the blame for past problems right where it belongs and making it clear that ICANN can do a MUCH better job if there is a real will to do so. Alan At 13/05/2012 07:44 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >+1 to all that Carlton said. > >- Evan > > >On 13 May 2012 17:26, Carlton Samuels wrote: > > > FYI. ? IMHO, the Final Report offers improved clarity and crispness in > > language. ?A few additions/clarifications from the preliminary report peaks > > interest: > > > > 1. ?WHOIS must be established as a strategic priority for ICANN. They > > doubled down by providing some definitive [and guiding!] recommendations to > > the Board to that objective. > > > > 2. ?Explicitly valorize the finding of widespread interest/convergence of > > WHOIS matters in the global community by recommending a fulsome outreach > > initiative. > > > > 3. ?Makes an explicit connection between anticipated improved compliance > > with a different reporting structure for ICANN Compliance that compels > > greater accountability from ICANN Board for outcomes, coupled with more > > transparent operations. > > > > 4. ?Declares in favour of " *a clear, unambiguous and enforceable chain > > of **contractual agreements with registries, registrars, and registrants > > to require the **provision and maintenance of accurate WHOIS data*.". > > > > Speaking as Chair of the At-Large WHOIS WG, I shall recommend that the > > ALAC issue a statement fully endorsing the recommendations of the Final > > Report > > - Carlton > > > > > > ============================== > > Carlton A Samuels > > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* > > ============================= > > > > > > ** > > ?[image: ICANN] News Alert > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-11may12-en.htm > > ------------------------------ > > WHOIS Policy Review Team Final Report > > > > 11 May 2012 > > > > > > ?*Forum Announcement:* Comment Period Opens on *Date:* 11 May 2012 ?* > > Categories/Tags:* > > > > Reviews/Improvements > > WHOIS Policy > > Transparency/Accountability > > ?*Purpose (Brief):* The WHOIS Policy Review Team, constituted under > > ICANN's Affirmation of Commitments (AoC) agreement with the U.S. Department > > of Commerce, submitted its *Final Report and > Recommendations > > * to the ICANN Board and this document has been posted for public comment. > > *Public Comment Box Link:* > > > http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/whois-rt-final-report-11may12-en.htm > > > > > > ?This message was sent to carlton.samuels at gmail.com from: > > > > ICANN | 4676 Admiralty Way Suite 330 | Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6601 > > > > Email Marketing by [image: iContact - Try It > Free!] > > ? ? Manage Your Subscription > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WHOIS-WG mailing list > > WHOIS-WG at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/whois-wg > > > > WHOIS WG Wiki: > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Whois+Policy > > > > > >-- >Evan Leibovitch >Toronto Canada > >Em: evan at telly dot org >Sk: evanleibovitch >Tw: el56 >_______________________________________________ >At-Large mailing list >At-Large at atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large at atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org From susank at fb.com Tue May 15 20:11:28 2012 From: susank at fb.com (Susan Kawaguchi) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 20:11:28 +0000 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Final Report Published In-Reply-To: <8CEFEE66A82A1CE-12A4-260AB@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Sharon, I agree it was a good team to work with. Glad I got to know you too. If you are ever in the SF bay area again let me know it would be great to see you. Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Legal Dept. Phone - 650 485-6064 From: > Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 02:11:48 -0400 To: >, > Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Final Report Published Dear Emily & All, I am sorry that I was not about for the final few months of the project. Although I was a newcomer to the group and the subject, you all made me feel very welcome and it was great it was to meet and work with you all and it was a fantastic learning opportunity for me. Particular thanks to Emily's outstanding leadership and guidance throughout. I hope to see you all at some stage in the future and If any of you visit London at any stage it would be great to meet up. Best Wishes Sharon -----Original Message----- From: Emily Taylor > To: rt4-whois > Sent: Fri, 11 May 2012 23:18 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Final Report Published Congratulations, everyone http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/whois-rt-final-report-11may12-en Thanks for all your hard work. Best, Emily -- [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/etclogo250x60.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 ? m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 emily at emilytaylor.eu www.etlaw.co.uk Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and Wales No. 7630471. VAT No. 114487713. _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20120515/fad3bc22/attachment.html From lgoodendorf at versprite.com Wed May 16 13:27:41 2012 From: lgoodendorf at versprite.com (Lynn Goodendorf) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 13:27:41 +0000 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Final Report Published In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15EC96EF0D23D24FA863332FE6626FF508A596EC@BTREXMB01.myvenyu.com> Many thanks to you Emily! You have been an excellent Chair of our Review Team. You motivated us to move forward when we might have faltered. Your personal dedication and drive to this effort was a success factor. I am proud of the work we have done together especially in view of the wide spectrum of perspectives and views of our team members. With best regards, Lynn ________________________________ From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] on behalf of Emily Taylor [emily at emilytaylor.eu] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:18 PM To: rt4-whois at icann.org Subject: [Rt4-whois] Final Report Published Congratulations, everyone http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/whois-rt-final-report-11may12-en Thanks for all your hard work. Best, Emily -- [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/etclogo250x60.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 ? m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 emily at emilytaylor.eu www.etlaw.co.uk Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and Wales No. 7630471. VAT No. 114487713. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20120516/be9016c6/attachment.html From emily at emilytaylor.eu Thu May 17 07:27:09 2012 From: emily at emilytaylor.eu (Emily Taylor) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:27:09 +0100 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version Message-ID: Hi all Thank you for your kind comments over the past few days - much appreciated. I received a request for a red line version of our final report, and I thought, why not publish one? I found redline versions useful when looking over eg the Applicant Guidebook for new gTLDs in its many iterations. Most people are busy, and if they have already invested time in reading the whole thing, why not just look over the differences? So, unless you object, I'd like to request that Alice prepare a redline version of the final report, comparing it to the draft report as published. Please shout if you don't like the idea. Best, Emily -- * * 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 ? m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 emily at emilytaylor.eu *www.etlaw.co.uk* Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and Wales No. 7630471. VAT No. 114487713. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20120517/44f8815a/attachment.html From kathy at kathykleiman.com Thu May 17 11:57:46 2012 From: kathy at kathykleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 07:57:46 -0400 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FB4E7BA.4010303@kathykleiman.com> Hi Emily, It sounds like a difficult job for Alice, because we not only edited, but flipped text around. But great thanks to her, if she can do it! Best, Kathy : > Hi all > > Thank you for your kind comments over the past few days - much > appreciated. > > I received a request for a red line version of our final report, and I > thought, why not publish one? I found redline versions useful when > looking over eg the Applicant Guidebook for new gTLDs in its many > iterations. Most people are busy, and if they have already invested > time in reading the whole thing, why not just look over the differences? > > So, unless you object, I'd like to request that Alice prepare a > redline version of the final report, comparing it to the draft report > as published. > > Please shout if you don't like the idea. > > Best, > > Emily > > -- > > > > > __ > > 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK > t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 . m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 > emily at emilytaylor.eu > > *www.etlaw.co.uk * > > Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England > and Wales No. 7630471. VAT No. 114487713. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20120517/748b482d/attachment.html From emily at emilytaylor.eu Thu May 17 12:00:28 2012 From: emily at emilytaylor.eu (Emily Taylor) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:00:28 +0100 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version In-Reply-To: <4FB4E7BA.4010303@kathykleiman.com> References: <4FB4E7BA.4010303@kathykleiman.com> Message-ID: I think it should be relatively straightforward using the "Compare documents" function, now that we have the cleaned up final document, and the clean draft as published. Agree it would have been a nightmare to do as we went along! On 17 May 2012 12:57, Kathy Kleiman wrote: > Hi Emily, > It sounds like a difficult job for Alice, because we not only edited, but > flipped text around. But great thanks to her, if she can do it! > Best, > Kathy > : > > Hi all > > Thank you for your kind comments over the past few days - much appreciated. > > I received a request for a red line version of our final report, and I > thought, why not publish one? I found redline versions useful when looking > over eg the Applicant Guidebook for new gTLDs in its many iterations. Most > people are busy, and if they have already invested time in reading the > whole thing, why not just look over the differences? > > So, unless you object, I'd like to request that Alice prepare a redline > version of the final report, comparing it to the draft report as published. > > Please shout if you don't like the idea. > > Best, > > Emily > > -- > > > > > * > * > > 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK > t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 ? m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 > emily at emilytaylor.eu > > *www.etlaw.co.uk* > > Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and > Wales No. 7630471. VAT No. 114487713. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing listRt4-whois at icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > > > > -- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > > -- * * 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 ? m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 emily at emilytaylor.eu *www.etlaw.co.uk* Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and Wales No. 7630471. VAT No. 114487713. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20120517/a5cbd921/attachment.html From lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com Thu May 17 12:16:01 2012 From: lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com (lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:16:01 +0000 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2071462388-1337256962-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-776463835-@b5.c9.bise6.blackberry> If we have the discretion to decline this request, it seems like unnecessary work to me. The principle that we have emphasized is that this is a consensus based output and we did work hard to achieve that. and we have followed all the transparency practices as we progressed. Lynn Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Emily Taylor Sender: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:27:09 To: Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois From emily at emilytaylor.eu Thu May 17 12:18:15 2012 From: emily at emilytaylor.eu (Emily Taylor) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:18:15 +0100 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version In-Reply-To: <2071462388-1337256962-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-776463835-@b5.c9.bise6.blackberry> References: <2071462388-1337256962-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-776463835-@b5.c9.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Hi there Just to be clear what I'm proposing, Lynn I don't propose that we publish our working discussions, merely the differences between our two public documents. This is similar to what was done by ICANN for the various versions of the gTLD applicant guidebook. I found it very helpful because if you have read the whole document once, you can then concentrate on what has changed. So, it's just highlighting differences in the two published texts. Kind regards Emily On 17 May 2012 13:16, wrote: > If we have the discretion to decline this request, it seems like > unnecessary work to me. > The principle that we have emphasized is that this is a consensus based > output and we did work hard to achieve that. and we have followed all the > transparency practices as we progressed. > Lynn > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emily Taylor > Sender: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org > Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:27:09 > To: > Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > > > -- * * 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 ? m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 emily at emilytaylor.eu *www.etlaw.co.uk* Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and Wales No. 7630471. VAT No. 114487713. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20120517/ee8ff8b9/attachment.html From lgoodendorf at versprite.com Thu May 17 13:01:03 2012 From: lgoodendorf at versprite.com (Lynn Goodendorf) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:01:03 +0000 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version In-Reply-To: References: <2071462388-1337256962-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-776463835-@b5.c9.bise6.blackberry>, Message-ID: <15EC96EF0D23D24FA863332FE6626FF508A59834@BTREXMB01.myvenyu.com> Thanks for the clarification Emily. I still have a reluctance for ICANN staff to spend time on this but feel reassured in that both documents have been published. Lynn Ms. Lynn Goodendorf, CIPP, CISSP VP - Data Privacy Services VerSprite - Navigate Beyond Risk (Main) 1.678.278.8312 | (Direct) 1.404.333.3779 | (Fax) 1.678.222.3401 www.versprite.com |twitter: @VerSprite ________________________________ From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] on behalf of Emily Taylor [emily at emilytaylor.eu] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:18 AM To: lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org; rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version Hi there Just to be clear what I'm proposing, Lynn I don't propose that we publish our working discussions, merely the differences between our two public documents. This is similar to what was done by ICANN for the various versions of the gTLD applicant guidebook. I found it very helpful because if you have read the whole document once, you can then concentrate on what has changed. So, it's just highlighting differences in the two published texts. Kind regards Emily On 17 May 2012 13:16, > wrote: If we have the discretion to decline this request, it seems like unnecessary work to me. The principle that we have emphasized is that this is a consensus based output and we did work hard to achieve that. and we have followed all the transparency practices as we progressed. Lynn Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Emily Taylor > Sender: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:27:09 To: > Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois -- [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/etclogo250x60.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 ? m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 emily at emilytaylor.eu www.etlaw.co.uk Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and Wales No. 7630471. VAT No. 114487713. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20120517/192d4d6e/attachment.html From bill.smith at paypal-inc.com Thu May 17 15:24:55 2012 From: bill.smith at paypal-inc.com (Smith, Bill) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:24:55 +0000 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm in favor of publishing a redline, provided it takes the form of a simple compare documents and save to PDF. If anyone is interested, see http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/weirds/current/maillist.html , staring with the message posted by Jeff Hodges on 16 May. From: Emily Taylor > Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:18 AM To: "lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com" > Cc: "rt4-whois at icann.org" >, "rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org" > Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version Hi there Just to be clear what I'm proposing, Lynn I don't propose that we publish our working discussions, merely the differences between our two public documents. This is similar to what was done by ICANN for the various versions of the gTLD applicant guidebook. I found it very helpful because if you have read the whole document once, you can then concentrate on what has changed. So, it's just highlighting differences in the two published texts. Kind regards Emily On 17 May 2012 13:16, > wrote: If we have the discretion to decline this request, it seems like unnecessary work to me. The principle that we have emphasized is that this is a consensus based output and we did work hard to achieve that. and we have followed all the transparency practices as we progressed. Lynn Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Emily Taylor > Sender: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:27:09 To: > Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois -- [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/etclogo250x60.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 ? m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 emily at emilytaylor.eu www.etlaw.co.uk Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and Wales No. 7630471. VAT No. 114487713. From bill.smith at paypal-inc.com Thu May 17 15:57:50 2012 From: bill.smith at paypal-inc.com (Smith, Bill) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:57:50 +0000 Subject: [Rt4-whois] FW: [weirds] fyi: WHOIS Policy Review Team Final Report In-Reply-To: Message-ID: FYI - I sent this note to the Weirds list. On 5/17/12 8:32 AM, "Smith, Bill" wrote: >Thanks all for your comments on the WHOIS report. I've taken the liberty >of forwarding a link to the WEIRDS ARCHIVE TO THE WHOIS Review Team. While >our work is officially (from an ICANN perspective) completed, most if not >all of us maintain an interest in and commitment to improving WHOIS >(protocol, data, and service). > >While I can't speak for the team, your thoughtful comments are >appreciated. I will note that the Report is now in the hands of the ICANN >Board and additional comments may be submitted at >http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/whois-rt-final-report-11may12- >e >n.htm. > >On 5/17/12 6:40 AM, "Andrew Sullivan" wrote: > >>On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 01:33:57AM -0000, John Levine wrote: >>> This is a surprisingly good report. >> >>It's interesting you say that. I had exactly the opposite reaction. >>There are problems both large and small. The executive summary has a >>bad definition of what a domain name is. The report makes a number of >>preposterous recommendations, like that ICANN should, for some reason, >>start chasing all referrals in whois (because, apparently, people >>don't know how to use whois and this will magically enable them to do >>so), and attempts to extent ICANN's regulatory reach into areas where >>it has no business (and where it will fail anyway). It gets its >>history wrong, and just ignores IRIS. It makes the distinction among >>the service, protocol, and data but does not attend to that >>distinction throughout. It points out, but offers no suggestions for >>resolving, the basic inconsistency in what different communities want >>from the registration data service. Finally, it simply refuses to >>engage with the question of whether the very limitations of the >>protocol are a fundamental part of the problem. >> >>The latter is the most serious issue, in my opinion, because it leads >>them to make recommendations that are just as unrealistic as the last >>five times ICANN has blathered on about whois. Fixing the protocol >>limitations is simply a necessary condition for doing anything about >>all the rest of it. I sent them a public comment pointing this out >>after they posted their draft report (I also sent them private mail >>pointing out the number of technical errors in the report, most of >>which they appear to have left alone. One sometimes gets the feeling >>that ICANN committees just don't care about technical precision, and >>this report doesn't help dispel that feeling). >> >>I think the report is a shame. It has taken several years and not >>insignificant money to say a bunch of commonplaces, yet the report >>doesn't really help do anything about the two most serious problems >>with registration data: the protocols we have are poorly adapted to >>serving the needs we have, and the set of needs we have is in any case >>an internally inconsistent set. The first is a technical issue, and >>we here are in a position to do something about it if only we >>understand what problems we need to solve. The second is a basic >>problem of public policy, in which different actors want vastly >>different things from the same service. One might have hoped that the >>report would have provided a framework for figuring out how to make >>those compromises, but it doesn't. >> >>> I'd encourage people to read it, >>> at least the first section which summarizes the recommendations, and >>> send a comment to ICANN. >> >>On this we agree. >> >>Best, >> >>A >> >> >>-- >>Andrew Sullivan >>ajs at anvilwalrusden.com >>_______________________________________________ >>weirds mailing list >>weirds at ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > From kathy at kathykleiman.com Thu May 17 16:40:29 2012 From: kathy at kathykleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:40:29 -0400 Subject: [Rt4-whois] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_ICANN_News_Alert_--_Open-Source_Refe?= =?utf-8?q?rence_Implementation_of_a_Domain_Name_RESTful_Whois_Server_?= =?utf-8?q?=E2=80=93_Request_for_Proposals?= In-Reply-To: <0.0.15F.CD.1CD34411A452BC2.0@drone131.ral.icpbounce.com> References: <0.0.15F.CD.1CD34411A452BC2.0@drone131.ral.icpbounce.com> Message-ID: <4FB529FD.1000904@kathykleiman.com> FYI -- I think this announcement runs to one of our recommendations -- having ICANN clearly work across communities, and widely bring in involvement on key Whois technical issues. What do others think? Best, Kathy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ICANN News Alert -- Open-Source Reference Implementation of a Domain Name RESTful Whois Server ? Request for Proposals Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 11:24:08 -0400 From: ICANN News Alert To: ICANN News Alert http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-3-16may12-en.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Open-Source Reference Implementation of a Domain Name RESTful Whois Server ? Request for Proposals 16 May 2012 ICANN is issuing today a Request for Proposal [PDF, 183 KB] to identify a provider capable of providing an open source reference implementation of a Domain Name RESTful Whois server. On 15 May 2012, the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) chartered a new working group to standardize a RESTful-based Registration Data Access Protocol. In order to facilitate the evaluation and adoption of the replacement protocol for domain registries and registrars, ICANN is seeking proposals for an open source reference implementation. Whois services, and their effectiveness in the case of Internationalized registration data, are important issues for ICANN. ICANN has been working to make advances in this area, appreciating the technical community's past and present contributions, and committed to collaborating with the technical and policy community to improve the Whois service. Beginning in 2002, ICANN's Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) published various advisories describing the needs for improvement related to the Whois protocol, service and data schema, most recently SAC 051 [PDF, 237 KB]: SSAC Report on Domain Name Whois Terminology and Structure. SAC 051 summarizes the previous advisories, and among other things, recommends that the ICANN community evaluate and adopt a replacement protocol that supports the query and display of Internationalized registration data as well as addressing the relevant recommendations in past SSAC advisories on this topic. Respondents are requested to respond to this RFP by replying to: rws-opensource at icann.org . The period to submit questions about the RFP will close on 5 June 2012. ICANN will provide answers to all questions submitted to all respondents by 7 June 2012. The final response to the RFP is due on 15 June 2012. This message was sent to kathy at kathykleiman.com from: ICANN | 4676 Admiralty Way Suite 330 | Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6601 Email Marketing by iContact - Try It Free! Manage Your Subscription -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rt4-whois/attachments/20120517/396f6970/attachment.html From bill.smith at paypal-inc.com Thu May 17 17:53:41 2012 From: bill.smith at paypal-inc.com (Smith, Bill) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 17:53:41 +0000 Subject: [Rt4-whois] =?windows-1252?q?Fwd=3A_ICANN_News_Alert_--_Open-Sour?= =?windows-1252?q?ce_Reference_Implementation_of_a_Domain_Name_RESTful_Who?= =?windows-1252?q?is_Server_=AD_Request_for_Proposals?= In-Reply-To: <4FB529FD.1000904@kathykleiman.com> Message-ID: I agree. From: Kathy Kleiman > Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:40 AM To: "rt4-whois at icann.org" > Subject: [Rt4-whois] Fwd: ICANN News Alert -- Open-Source Reference Implementation of a Domain Name RESTful Whois Server ? Request for Proposals FYI -- I think this announcement runs to one of our recommendations -- having ICANN clearly work across communities, and widely bring in involvement on key Whois technical issues. What do others think? Best, Kathy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ICANN News Alert -- Open-Source Reference Implementation of a Domain Name RESTful Whois Server ? Request for Proposals Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 11:24:08 -0400 From: ICANN News Alert To: [ICANN] News Alert http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-3-16may12-en.htm ________________________________ Open-Source Reference Implementation of a Domain Name RESTful Whois Server ? Request for Proposals 16 May 2012 ICANN is issuing today a Request for Proposal [PDF, 183 KB] to identify a provider capable of providing an open source reference implementation of a Domain Name RESTful Whois server. On 15 May 2012, the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) chartered a new working group to standardize a RESTful-based Registration Data Access Protocol. In order to facilitate the evaluation and adoption of the replacement protocol for domain registries and registrars, ICANN is seeking proposals for an open source reference implementation. Whois services, and their effectiveness in the case of Internationalized registration data, are important issues for ICANN. ICANN has been working to make advances in this area, appreciating the technical community's past and present contributions, and committed to collaborating with the technical and policy community to improve the Whois service. Beginning in 2002, ICANN's Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) published various advisories describing the needs for improvement related to the Whois protocol, service and data schema, most recently SAC 051 [PDF, 237 KB]: SSAC Report on Domain Name Whois Terminology and Structure. SAC 051 summarizes the previous advisories, and among other things, recommends that the ICANN community evaluate and adopt a replacement protocol that supports the query and display of Internationalized registration data as well as addressing the relevant recommendations in past SSAC advisories on this topic. Respondents are requested to respond to this RFP by replying to: rws-opensource at icann.org. The period to submit questions about the RFP will close on 5 June 2012. ICANN will provide answers to all questions submitted to all respondents by 7 June 2012. The final response to the RFP is due on 15 June 2012. This message was sent to kathy at kathykleiman.com from: ICANN | 4676 Admiralty Way Suite 330 | Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6601 Email Marketing by [iContact - Try It Free!] Manage Your Subscription From seth.reiss at lex-ip.com Thu May 17 17:53:48 2012 From: seth.reiss at lex-ip.com (Seth M Reiss) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 07:53:48 -1000 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version In-Reply-To: <15EC96EF0D23D24FA863332FE6626FF508A59834@BTREXMB01.myvenyu.com> References: <2071462388-1337256962-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-776463835-@b5.c9.bise6.blackberry>, <15EC96EF0D23D24FA863332FE6626FF508A59834@BTREXMB01.myvenyu.com> Message-ID: <005801cd3456$041fb0f0$0c5f12d0$@reiss@lex-ip.com> Can't Word and other programs just do this at a click of a computer key? From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Lynn Goodendorf Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:01 AM To: Emily Taylor; lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org; rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version Thanks for the clarification Emily. I still have a reluctance for ICANN staff to spend time on this but feel reassured in that both documents have been published. Lynn Ms. Lynn Goodendorf, CIPP, CISSP VP - Data Privacy Services VerSprite - Navigate Beyond Risk (Main) 1.678.278.8312 | (Direct) 1.404.333.3779 | (Fax) 1.678.222.3401 www.versprite.com |twitter: @VerSprite _____ From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] on behalf of Emily Taylor [emily at emilytaylor.eu] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:18 AM To: lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org; rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version Hi there Just to be clear what I'm proposing, Lynn I don't propose that we publish our working discussions, merely the differences between our two public documents. This is similar to what was done by ICANN for the various versions of the gTLD applicant guidebook. I found it very helpful because if you have read the whole document once, you can then concentrate on what has changed. So, it's just highlighting differences in the two published texts. Kind regards Emily On 17 May 2012 13:16, wrote: If we have the discretion to decline this request, it seems like unnecessary work to me. The principle that we have emphasized is that this is a consensus based output and we did work hard to achieve that. and we have followed all the transparency practices as we progressed. Lynn Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Emily Taylor Sender: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:27:09 To: Subject: [Rt4-whois] Request for redline version _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois -- 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 . m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 emily at emilytaylor.eu www.etlaw.co.uk Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and Wales No. 7630471. VAT No. 114487713. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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