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<p class="MsoNormal">I am not sure what CA law requires written tickets or a physical draw to set the order for application review. To the extent that you require consideration (i.e., payment) to get a benefit where such is determined by chance you create
the risk of an illegal lottery. But if no consideration/payment is required that risk goes away and it is unlikely that the process would be deemed a sweepstakes or promotion requiring registration under any state or country law as it is not open to the public
or consumers but rather is a process for determining priority to a closed group of companies that applied for TLDs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Re the need for draw tickets I think that is a bad and confusing phrase. But there seems to be value letting applicants choose whether they care about prioritization or not, and if they do, randomly selecting which order their application
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe we are talking past each other and saying the same thing?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The reasons for the physical draw are rooted in California law; what you are suggesting would work in Nevada, I’m told. What I challenged was the need for the draw tickets now that this round will have the draw as it’s prioritization mechanism
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree. This is overly complicated and unnecessary. Why use paper tickets and have them be purchased? Is this 1980? Why not just have the applicant elect electronically through the applicant portal whether or not they wat to participate
in the prioritization draw. Only certain authorized applicant representative have access to the portal so this should be both efficient and secure. I also don’t think we need a live draw and can just use some recognized third party provider to conduct the
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<p class="MsoNormal">Furthermore, and further to what Rubens posted below, purchasing tickets could be deemed an illegal lottery under the laws of various US states and other countries. Generally, the elements of an illegal lottery are: chance, prize, and
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>SubPro-IRT <<a href="mailto:subpro-irt-bounces@icann.org">subpro-irt-bounces@icann.org</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Rubens
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<p class="MsoNormal">Using a separate ticket drawing was used in 2012 only because AGB foresaw Digital Archery. Now that the application will include priority ticket from the start, there is no sane reason to do it like this. <o:p></o:p></p>
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