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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m pasting here my earlier response to Martin for your awareness. I believe this aligns with what you’ve said.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:black">To clarify, the RSP fee has been pulled out of and made separate from the overall application fee. This means that an applicant that uses a pre-evaluated RSP will pay just the application fee (which won’t include
fees for RSP evaluation), while an applicant that<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>does not</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>use a pre-evaluated RSP will pay the application fee + an RSP evaluation fee. So, the difference comes in
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jared Erwin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Rubens Kuhl via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 2:14 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"subpro-irt@icann.org" <subpro-irt@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [SubPro-IRT] RySG Applicant Decisions and Milestones Input & ICANN org Response<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hope they are saying that the technical evaluation will have the same cost in pre-evaluation or in evaluation window, but if someone choses to use any pre-evaluated RSP, that cost won’t be applied to <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If they are indeed saying what you implied, then it’s time to file a RfR while there is time to do so. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Org is still not disclosing whether they will break SubPro recs that were approved by the Board regarding forcing to choose a specific pre-approved RSP. I’m still waiting on that with RfR text ready just in case. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Em 2 de mai. de 2024, à(s) 14:15, Martin Sutton <martin@tldz.com> escreveu:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Elisa, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for sharing. Please note my updated email address.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All - the first thing ICANN org mentions in its response is that no differentiation in fees will be applied to an application with pre-evaluated RSP vs without. This is at odds with the SubPro discussions and outputs, where the RSP pre-evaluation
was expected to considerably reduce duplication of effort and streamline processing, and reduce costs, reflected in lower fees for applicants selecting a pre-evaluated RSP. Dusting down the over 3-year old Final Report, this is referred to under Implementation
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<p class="MsoNormal">Whilst I respect the IRT is not responsible for setting fees, I think ICANN org will be challenged to justify this stance and deviation from the implementation guidance in the Final Report. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is anyone else surprised with this or other elements in ICANN org’s reply?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Martin Sutton</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2 May 2024, at 10:25, Elisa Busetto <elisa.busetto@icann.org> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">In this context, we would like to inform you that on 29 February 2024 the RySG shared with ICANN org a<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/SPIR/Reference+Material?preview=/238617519/331808819/RySG%20Applicant%20Decisions%20and%20Milestones_Feb%202024.pdf"><span style="color:#467886">letter</span></a>outlining
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