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Hi Marika,
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<div>Thank you for jumping in and the information provided. </div>
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<div>With regards to the cost of technical evaluations in the last round, $40k-$50k seems extremely high for a couple of reasons. ICANN org budgeted approximately $60k per application for
<b>all</b> the evaluation processes, something Jeff flagged during the call. Also, the repetitive/duplicative nature of completing multiple technical evaluations for the same RSP presumably minimised the processing resources/costs.</div>
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<div>I guess the IRT is lacking any reliable data to justify the costs/fess proposed for the next round, with some of us left with just a ‘gut feel’ that these are unnecessarily high, which will have a detrimental affect on new entrants, especially from underserved
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<div>The only real comparison we have presently is the technical evaluation for a new RSP as part of the MSA process you and Ruben’s referred to. This is triggered when an RSP does not support an existing new gTLD, with an estimated cost of $14.3k. This figure
would also fit comfortably in the overall evaluations costs budget in the last round for each application, highlighted above.</div>
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<div>I sensed from the presentation on the call that estimates for RSP pre-evaluation were up to 100. This is not a huge number of technical evaluations and with an improved, methodical and uniform process, should be relatively straightforward. Hopefully, this
has not attracted an over-engineered and costly application system, especially if it is comparable to the MSA technical evaluation which can be completed from three to nine weeks.</div>
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<div>It was somewhat surprising to see the fees for pre-evaluation presented without any supporting data for the underlying costs, but hopefully this breakdown will be provided shortly. I would recommend providing a comparison between the MSA technical evaluation,
as this will be helpful to illustrate the key variances in processes and resources/costs.</div>
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<div>Beyond the RSP Pre-evaluation topic, the new gTLD application fee is due to be shared with the IRT in the coming weeks. It would be helpful if this is presented with detailed breakdown of costs for transparency and justification. </div>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
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<div>On 27 May 2024, at 07:20, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">All, as my US colleagues are out today for a US holiday, I thought I would jump in to try and avoid any confusion. The
link that Rubens shared is NOT the cost estimate from the 2012 round but for a Material Subcontracting Arrangement (MSA) change. This is an ad-hoc, individual request review. My understanding is that the estimated costs of technical evaluation in 2012 were
between $40,000 and $50,000 per application (not per RSP). Regardless, as Gustavo also pointed out on the call, focusing on the difference between 2012 and RSP is to a certain degree comparing apples to pears as per the SubPro recommendations, a separate program
has now been created with its own application system as well as RST 2.0, that will evaluate RSPs only once. Gustavo and team will be sharing more details on the cost breakdown of implementing and running RSP as requested by the IRT, but as a reminder, per
policy recommendation 6.8, the program is expected to be cost recovery with those seeking evaluation funding RSP. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt-bounces@icann.org>
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<b>Reply-To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br><br>
<b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Sunday, 26 May 2024 at 21:18<br>
<b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"subpro-irt@icann.org" <subpro-irt@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [SubPro-IRT] RSP fee<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Em 26 de mai. de 2024, à(s) 14:26, Hickson, Nigel (DSIT) <nigel.hickson@dsit.gov.uk> escreveu:<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Good morning; like yourself I was on IRT Call when this came up, but had not appreciated what the cost in 2012 round was; this is indeed a significant increase. I am sure the GAC will
be very concerned as to how this impacts applications from underserved regions. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Hi Nigel. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Note that this does not applied only in 2012(actually 2014 since this is only charged when a gTLD changes RSPs); this is 2024 current fee to be an RSP for 2012 gTLDs. Org can’t blame
inflation on this one, since it’s a comparison of current fees. <o:p></o:p></div>
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