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I am not sure this is the appropriate place to discuss these issues, but as a lawyer, it certainly is possible to prohibit private auctions if that was the ultimate decision made. Happens all the times with auctions with regulatory bodies where collusion is
grounds for immediate disqualification. If the punishment for participation in private auctions were severe enough, it could be a significant deterrent. However, whether disallowing private auctions while at the same time allowing other forms of private
resolution (like joint ventures) is possible, that is a whole other question.</div>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I am a lawyer! But this is not a legal question – it is a policy question.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:black">Marc H. Trachtenberg
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Sam Lanfranco <samlanfranco@gmail.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 20, 2024 2:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Trachtenberg, Marc H. (Shld-Chi-IP-Tech) <trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [SubPro-IRT] GAC Advice on Private Auctions and ICANN Last-Resort Auctions</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I am not in favor of private auctions but I have yet to hear of a way to make prevention operational.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">What do the lawyers among us have to say here?</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Sam L.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On Jun 20, 2024, at 3:07 p.m., <a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" target="_blank">
trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a> wrote:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Personally, I think that permitting private auctions in the next round will completely distort and destroy it as the majority of applications will be speculative in nature trying to get a payout via private auction. We already
know anecdotally that there are a number of people setting up funds to do this and many others have already publicly expressed an interest in doing this. And certain strings are obvious targets. This will junk up the process, waste ICANN resources, and increase
time and cost for all applicants, and be detrimental to the general public. Frankly, I don’t know anyone that thinks permitting private auctions is a good idea and will be beneficial other than those who have expressed interest in participating in them.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Of course it is a different question of <i>how</i> to prohibit private auctions. I am not sure how this can be effectively accomplished. Maybe we prohibit all private resolution of contention sets for monetary (or equivalent)
consideration other than the ICANN auction of last resort. Could applicants still do this secretly – of course. But if they wee found out, the winner could lose its TLD. If we all think that having private auctions is detrimental then we should take steps
here to prohibit them, as ICANN is not doing so (although they have expressed concern) and have kicked it back to the GNSO. Yes of course there will be ways to game any method we choose but the possibility of gaming is too often used in ICANN-land as a reason/excuse
not to do things and to keep the status quo. The reality is that any system/rule/process can be gamed and the best we can do is try to set up the process to reduce opportunities for gaming and increase penalties for doing so.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Best regards,</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif; color:black">I do not believe that the GAC understands the complexities in its advice with regard to not using auctions in the resolution of contention sets.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif; color:black">FIRST: Once a contention set is determined, there is really no mechanism by which the contenders can work out a resolution on their own that can be prevented
by ICANN. In a contention set an agreed payment scheme would avoid an auction, but an auction ban could not be enforced. Even insisting on an ICANN auction of last resort could not prevent a prior agreement between contending parties, and the ICANN auction
would just a formality in terms of a private agreement.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif; color:black">SECOND: Auctions exist to solve a problem of excess demand for unique (non-fungible) commodities. A gTLD is a unique supply of one item, the thing being
sought is right to be the registry for that one item (vertical supply line at Q = 1). Money as the numéraire in which the price is expressed and the auction as a way of selecting a buyer when there are competing interests are a “form follows function” solution
to the competing interests. It was invented precisely for this purpose when there is no overriding reason to award the "item" (gTLD registry) to any one contender. </span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif; color:black">GAC proposed no alternatives to resolving the contention set without an auction. Any alternative would require a consensus on an outside agent who would
have neither regulatory guidelines not case law to reach a decision. That would mean that there are no objective criteria for selecting an outside agent.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif; color:black">My view here would be to explain this to GAC, and politely ask if they have guidance on how an acceptable outside agent might be identified. In the end
I see no way around an ICANN auction of last resort, even if there is a way of preventing a private resolution within the contenders in the contention set. This situation is precisely why humans with agency created auctions in the first place.</span></p>
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