[technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions?

Wed Oct 21 17:24:45 UTC 2020

Hello, lots of choices. I'll throw in another one : Hopin https://hopin.to/
Here's the short 85 second teaser video https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4

I attended a online conference (not related to ICANN) and it had several
features which to me would fit well with ICANN meetings :

- Reception Area where latest updates, links are shared, resources - like
the lobby of the ICANN meeting
- main stage where the main sessions will take place - so things like
welcome session and key plenary sessions, webinars
- Sessions - the "smaller" sessions so At-Large sessions with NPOC, GAC,
SSAC, GNSO tracks happening or breakout sessions ; each session can have
its own chat so you can always have an at-large group chat ; you can have
"special" sessions so only certain persons will see it and not publicised,
so maybe the ALAC Excom logged in attendees could have their room to
strategize, ICANN Staff can have for their internal staff coordination
- networking - you can directly video chat with any person attending the
event so when you go for a "coffee" break or want to follow up or meet
someone, you can or pair up with a conference attendee randomly (or set it
up like Fellows will be paired with mentors or SMEs)
- Expo area - vendors can still have their "booths" you can network , you
click on the booth and participate in the live session with the vendor (so
you could have a virtual At-Large booth there) or have a on demand video
played and a vendor chat with participants
- all the while, there's a main chat which you can hide but then also
participate in so there's no separate chat channel  ; Organisers and Hosts
messages in the chat are more clearly identified so you see the staff
responses faster
- live polls can be done to get the "temperature of the room"

Here's the 2 min orientation video by the conference organiser of the one I
attended https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk
and one which is a much deeper dive of the hopin features :
https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122

So to me, it really brings the F2F event online in a way which I didn't see
before.

So definitely this should also be looked at by the TTF

--
Dev Anand

On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 07:20, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
wrote:

> Hi Olivier,
>
> OK you make a good point.  we will test them, irregardless of what ICANN
> says.  I will schedule them a couple of them for either the December or the
> January meeting.
>
> Best.
> Judith
>
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> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Dear Judith,
>
> this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology
> irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there
> to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is
> for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test
> them out on future TTF meetings?
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>
> HI Raitme,
>
> Thanks so much for your comments.  I have heard good things about REMO.
> However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved.
> We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within
> the system and hopefully we will succeed.  We did succeed in getting this
> YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch
> sessions with less bandwidth interruptions
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
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> On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote:
>
> Greetings to everyone
>
> On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my
> experience in some virtual socialization environments
>
> A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events
> and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly
> inclusive for the following reasons
>
>  - It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good
> experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the
> world where they do not even have half this minimum).
>
> - requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration
> that is usually quite expensive for most.
>
> However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much
> cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in
> terms of the amount of time per participant connected.
> https://gather.town/pricing
>
> They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style
> pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create
> their own configurations.
>
> The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that
> space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it
> foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create
> personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating
> factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings
> chat, audio, video)
>
> https://gather.town/features
>
> Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people
> for free as long as they are used regularly.
>
> If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter
> and test it.
>
> Best regards
>
> Raitme Citterio
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>
> El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon (
> calderon.alfredo at gmail.com) escribió:
>
>> Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/,
>> as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each
>> virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social
>> networking scenario.
>>
>> The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements,
>> and user- friendly issues are on the table.
>>
>> I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings
>> and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best?
>> Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish.
>>
>>    - Recording breakout sessions,
>>    - Multimedia capabilities,
>>    - Bandwidth and interoperability standards,
>>    - equipment requirements and accessibility,
>>    -  among a few.
>>
>> It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some
>> demos with these companies.
>>
>>
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>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Dear Friends and Colleagues,
>>>
>>> I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from
>>> At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so
>>> much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas.
>>>
>>> A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being
>>> tested and implemented.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned
>>>> it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access
>>>> to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool!
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier
>>>> MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM
>>>> *To:* ttf at atlarge-lists.icann.org <ttf at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions?
>>>>
>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza
>>>> explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the
>>>> At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and
>>>> networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting.
>>>> In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an
>>>> interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on
>>>> https://remo.co/
>>>> A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y
>>>>
>>>> I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the
>>>> one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run
>>>> by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table.
>>>> I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are
>>>> other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others?
>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>>
>>>> Olivier
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