Corrections of zone.tab for CN entries
Anthony Fok
anthony at thizlinux.com
Wed Dec 12 22:24:20 UTC 2001
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 04:23:42PM -0700, Paul Eggert wrote:
> > b. Kashgar is also in Xinjiang and there is no such region as
> > "Eastern Turkestan". That region is commonly call "Southern
> > Xinjiang".
>
> In English, the region is far more commonly called Eastern Turkestan,
> even today. At least, that's what Google says (2650 hits versus 766).
Actually, if my understanding is correct, the term "Eastern Turkestan"
refers to the historic name of the region, as a country, when it
was outside China's rule for brief periods in history. This region
returned to Chinese rule in the 19th century during the Qing Dynasty,
and called "Xinjiang", Chinese for "New Territory". Nowadays, the whole
province is called Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.
Reasons that "Eastern Turkestan" came up more often than "southern
Xinjiang" include:
* Eastern Turkestan = Xinjiang, not just southern Xinjiang (AFAIK).
Try a search on Xinjiang vs. Eastern Turkestan, and Xinjiang
is far far more common by orders of magnitude. Google says
103000 hits versus 3160. (and 2600 for "east turkestan",
1190 for "southern xinjiang"... Wow, Google has grown! :-)
* The term Xinjiang is relatively newer (since 19th century),
and most history books written before that period uses the old name.
Xinjiang was called Xiyu (the West Region), Huigu, and a few other
names in Chinese literature.
* There are some vocal separatist movements who want to "Free Eastern
Turkestan", not too unlike "Free Tibet"...
Indeed, it seems that nowadays only the separatists are calling the
modern Xinjiang province as "Eastern Turkestan", to be interpreted as
the Eastern Country of the Turks. Needless to say, at least some Chinese
would find that offensive.
Also, as a Hong-Kong Chinese myself, I had no idea what "Eastern Turkestan"
is until I actually looked it up on the Internet. I am sure most Chinese,
including the Uygur and Han people, would be scratching their heads
wondering what "Eastern Turkestan" is. Besides, it appears that Eastern
Turkestan = the whole Xinjiang, not just part of it, so again, it is not
appropriate to call that timezone "Eastern Turkestan" when it is just the
westmost region surrounding Kashgar that is within that timezone.
Therefore, I recommend changing the comment to something more informative
west Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (Eastern Turkestan), China
That should better suit the needs of both Chinese and non-Chinese. :-)
I have also revised other comment entries for China to make them more
informative. Seriously, we Chinese are utterly confused when we are asked
to choose a timezone during Linux installation. I myself had no idea why
the 5 cities were chosen until I finally compared a world timezone map with
a China map. :-) In fact, ALL major Chinese Linux distributions have
edited zone.tab to add Asia/Beijing and to revise the comments.
(Turbolinux Chinese and Red Flag Linux, for instance.) So, this does point
to a real usability (not political) problem. Therefore, I have made
all 5 comments more verbose. They may be long, but not as long as a few
entries for Canada. :-)
I have also changed "Macao" to "Macau". Why? :-)
1. Macau is the official name (in both English and Portuguese).
See www.macau.gov.mo, for example.
2. On recent trips to Macau, I can no longer find any signs that say
"Macao".
3. ISO 3166 says MO = Macau in English; MO = Macao in French.
4. On Google, Macau: 810000 hits; Macao: 311000 hits.
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Many thanks! :-)
> merely a matter of which city is the largest in a particular region.
> For more details, please see the Theory file.
>
> > On TV, radio, it is always saying "It is now 20' clock Beijing Time."
> > I haven't heard of "China time" before.
>
> Interesting. Are these announcements in the Chinese language, or in
> the English language?
I would guess both. Let me watch CCTV more often. :-)
Anyhow, it would actually sound weird if someone says "Xianzai shi Zhongguo
shijian xiawu liang dianzhong." (It is now 2 o'clock China Time.)
> It's not clear to me that "Kashi" versus "Kashgar" is a pinyin versus
> non-pinyin issue, as the name "Kashgar" is not a Chinese one. "Kashi"
> is the pinyin version of the Chinese name for "Kashgar". The city's
> population is about 3/4 Uighur, so calling it "Kashi" is a bit like
> calling the capital of Mongolia "Ulan Bator" (the anglicization of the
> Russian name).
According to the Xinjiang provincial web site, "Kashi" is short for
"Kashige'er", which is the long-form Chinese name for "Kashgar".
Anyhow, personally, I think "Kashige'er" and "Kashgar" are close enough,
so I am not too worried about it either. :-)
Cheers,
Anthony
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diff -Naur tzdata~/asia tzdata/asia
--- tzdata~/asia Wed Oct 10 01:31:30 2001
+++ tzdata/asia Thu Dec 13 05:16:10 2001
@@ -266,25 +266,25 @@
Zone Asia/Taipei 8:06:00 - LMT 1896 # or Taibei or T'ai-pei
8:00 Taiwan C%sT
-# Macao (Macau, Aomen)
+# Macau (Macao, Aomen)
# Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S
-Rule Macao 1961 1962 - Mar Sun>=16 3:30 1:00 S
-Rule Macao 1961 1964 - Nov Sun>=1 3:30 0 -
-Rule Macao 1963 only - Mar Sun>=16 0:00 1:00 S
-Rule Macao 1964 only - Mar Sun>=16 3:30 1:00 S
-Rule Macao 1965 only - Mar Sun>=16 0:00 1:00 S
-Rule Macao 1965 only - Oct 31 0:00 0 -
-Rule Macao 1966 1971 - Apr Sun>=16 3:30 1:00 S
-Rule Macao 1966 1971 - Oct Sun>=16 3:30 0 -
-Rule Macao 1972 1974 - Apr Sun>=15 0:00 1:00 S
-Rule Macao 1972 1973 - Oct Sun>=15 0:00 0 -
-Rule Macao 1974 1977 - Oct Sun>=15 3:30 0 -
-Rule Macao 1975 1977 - Apr Sun>=15 3:30 1:00 S
-Rule Macao 1978 1980 - Apr Sun>=15 0:00 1:00 S
-Rule Macao 1978 1980 - Oct Sun>=15 0:00 0 -
+Rule Macau 1961 1962 - Mar Sun>=16 3:30 1:00 S
+Rule Macau 1961 1964 - Nov Sun>=1 3:30 0 -
+Rule Macau 1963 only - Mar Sun>=16 0:00 1:00 S
+Rule Macau 1964 only - Mar Sun>=16 3:30 1:00 S
+Rule Macau 1965 only - Mar Sun>=16 0:00 1:00 S
+Rule Macau 1965 only - Oct 31 0:00 0 -
+Rule Macau 1966 1971 - Apr Sun>=16 3:30 1:00 S
+Rule Macau 1966 1971 - Oct Sun>=16 3:30 0 -
+Rule Macau 1972 1974 - Apr Sun>=15 0:00 1:00 S
+Rule Macau 1972 1973 - Oct Sun>=15 0:00 0 -
+Rule Macau 1974 1977 - Oct Sun>=15 3:30 0 -
+Rule Macau 1975 1977 - Apr Sun>=15 3:30 1:00 S
+Rule Macau 1978 1980 - Apr Sun>=15 0:00 1:00 S
+Rule Macau 1978 1980 - Oct Sun>=15 0:00 0 -
# Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL]
-Zone Asia/Macao 7:34:20 - LMT 1912
- 8:00 Macao MO%sT 1999 Dec 20 # return to China
+Zone Asia/Macau 7:34:20 - LMT 1912
+ 8:00 Macau MO%sT 1999 Dec 20 # return to China
8:00 PRC C%sT
diff -Naur tzdata~/backward tzdata/backward
--- tzdata~/backward Wed Oct 10 01:31:30 2001
+++ tzdata/backward Wed Dec 12 12:48:42 2001
@@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
Link Asia/Chongqing Asia/Chungking
Link Asia/Dhaka Asia/Dacca
Link Asia/Jerusalem Asia/Tel_Aviv
+Link Asia/Macau Asia/Macao
Link Asia/Thimphu Asia/Thimbu
Link Asia/Ulaanbaatar Asia/Ulan_Bator
Link Australia/Sydney Australia/ACT
diff -Naur tzdata~/iso3166.tab tzdata/iso3166.tab
--- tzdata~/iso3166.tab Fri Oct 5 05:01:16 2001
+++ tzdata/iso3166.tab Thu Dec 13 05:20:24 2001
@@ -159,7 +159,7 @@
ML Mali
MM Myanmar (Burma)
MN Mongolia
-MO Macao
+MO Macau
MP Northern Mariana Islands
MQ Martinique
MR Mauritania
diff -Naur tzdata~/zone.tab tzdata/zone.tab
--- tzdata~/zone.tab Wed Oct 10 01:31:32 2001
+++ tzdata/zone.tab Thu Dec 13 05:14:15 2001
@@ -123,11 +123,11 @@
CL -3327-07040 America/Santiago most locations
CL -2710-10927 Pacific/Easter Easter Island & Sala y Gomez
CM +0403+00942 Africa/Douala
-CN +3114+12128 Asia/Shanghai most eastern locations
-CN +4545+12641 Asia/Harbin Heilongjiang
-CN +2934+10635 Asia/Chongqing central China
-CN +4348+08735 Asia/Urumqi Tibet & most of Xinjiang
-CN +3929+07559 Asia/Kashgar Eastern Turkestan
+CN +3114+12128 Asia/Shanghai Beijing, Shanghai, Guangdong, and most eastern locations in China
+CN +4545+12641 Asia/Harbin northeast China - Heilongjiang
+CN +2934+10635 Asia/Chongqing central China - Gansu, Guangdong, Guizhou, Ningxia, Shaanxi, Sichuan, Yunnan, etc.
+CN +4348+08735 Asia/Urumqi Tibet (Xizang) & most of Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Regions, China
+CN +3929+07559 Asia/Kashgar west Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (Eastern Turkestan), China
CO +0436-07405 America/Bogota
CR +0956-08405 America/Costa_Rica
CU +2308-08222 America/Havana
@@ -241,7 +241,7 @@
MN +4755+10653 Asia/Ulaanbaatar most locations
MN +4801+09139 Asia/Hovd Bayan-Olgiy, Govi-Altai, Hovd, Uvs, Zavkhan
MN +4804+11430 Asia/Choibalsan Dornod, Sukhbaatar
-MO +2214+11335 Asia/Macao
+MO +2214+11335 Asia/Macau
MP +1512+14545 Pacific/Saipan
MQ +1436-06105 America/Martinique
MR +1806-01557 Africa/Nouakchott
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