Kirov on GMT+4?

[Rives McDow]

Dear Paul,

I have been in contact with a Russian astronomer in Murmansk, as well  
as someone who works in what would be the Department of  
Transportation in the US.  They both say that Kirov is GMT+4, and  
that it uses daylight savings time.  I can write the astronomer again  
and see if anything has changed, but it is via surface mail, and  
takes about a month to get a reply.

Rives


On May 13, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Jesper Norgaard Welen wrote:

> The Kirov timezone according to the tz database is GMT+3. As you will
> remember in an earlier mail I could not find any mention of the  
> timezone
> directly in the page of the Kirovskaya oblast' in
> http://www.gov-vyatka.ru/
> however this page pointed to another page
> http://www.gismeteo.ru/weather/towns/27196.htm
> that has sunrise and sunset times indicating that Kirov is on GMT+3.
>
> Now I have found a page that points to this same page, but explicitly
> defines Kirov as being on GMT+4:
> From main page http://map.rin.ru selecting Kirovskaya obl.
> http://map.rin.ru/cgi-bin/main.pl?Region=kirov
> you can see just below the link to the www.gismeteo.ru link that it
> specifies explicitly GMT+4
>
> The other links confirm what we think for other oblast's in the area:
> Samarskaya oblast' on GMT+4:
> http://map.rin.ru/cgi-bin/main.pl?Region=samara
> Udmurtskaya oblast' on GMT+4:
> http://map.rin.ru/cgi-bin/main.pl?Region=udmurt
> Volgogradskaya oblast' on GMT+3:
> http://map.rin.ru/cgi-bin/main.pl?Region=volga
> Astrakhanskaya oblast' on GMT+3:
> http://map.rin.ru/cgi-bin/main.pl?Region=astrah
> Saratovskaya oblast' on GMT+3:
> http://map.rin.ru/cgi-bin/main.pl?Region=saratov
> Komi republic on GMT+3:
> http://map.rin.ru/cgi-bin/main.pl?Region=komi
>
>
> This page has a summary of time differences from Moscow time, and  
> shows
> Kirov as being on Moscow time, e.g. GMT+3:
> http://www.bereg.ru/sprav_info/inform/time.shtml
>
> As we know from an earlier email from Paul Eggert, Shanks &  
> Pottenger (2003)
> has Kirov on GMT+4.
>
> I'm afraid Kirov is a difficult case. I have changed it myself in  
> World Time
> Explorer 4 times from between GMT+4 and GMT+3:
> February 23, 2000   GMT+4 to GMT+3
> January 21, 2001    GMT+3 to GMT+4
> June 18, 2001       GMT+4 to GMT+3
> October 2, 2002     GMT+3 to GMT+4
> Each time I was convinced I had found a better source. So who are  
> we to
> believe? We have still not found any official russian page that  
> gives the
> GMT offset explicitly.
>
> - Jesper
>
> Jesper Nørgaard Welen
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