[tz] [PATCH] Updates for Chile 2013

[Brian Inglis]

To paraphrase IT project choices:
they can have timely releases or official releases - pick one!

On 2013-03-04 06:38, richard_gombert at goodyear.com wrote:
> All,
>
> Believe me I appreciate all of the work done on this.
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> However, my appreciation of the work and effort does not change the legal
> ramifications. Nor does it lessen the attention by the plant manager regional
> directors, production VPs, the CEO and the board. I have tried to explain the
> process to them and illustrate that ultimate responsibility lies with the
> Chilean government, However they all get glassy eyed, when I start talking
> International standards.
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> My true frustration is with the Chilean Ministry of Energy and the Chilean
> government as a whole (I love the country and have enjoyed all of my trips
> there). I have expressed and requested that my company express our displeasure
> with how this process works.
>
> Thanks,
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> Richard Gombert
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> From: <Paul_Koning at dell.com>
> To: <wollman at csail.mit.edu>,
> Cc: tz at iana.org
> Date: 03/01/2013 02:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [tz] [PATCH] Updates for Chile 2013
> Sent by: tz-bounces at iana.org
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> On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote:
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>  > <<On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:32:37 -0500, Andrew Paprocki <andrew at ishiboo.com> said:
>  >
>  >> We have a production process based around IANA releases. This process can
>  >> not depend on github snapshots. We need lead time to deploy a real IANA
>  >> release to thousands of boxes in a safe manner. We can do testing using
>  >> github, but that doesn't remove the need to get a regularly scheduled (as
>  >> in "everyone knew about the Chile changes weeks ago") update at least a
>  >> week in advance.
>  >
>  > I think you and several other people on this list are being a bit too
>  > demanding of people who do this work without compensation in their
>  > spare time. If your process requires an "official" release, then you
>  > need to fix your process, because the official release process is not
>  > ordered around your scheduling demands.
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> The other point is that governments announce TZ changes with anywhere from a
> year or two lead time, to negative lead time. A day or two is quite common. So,
> realistically, timezone database changes, whether "official" or prereleases,
> will often appear after the fact. Such things are the fault of the respective
> governments, not of the TZ workers.
>
> paul
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