[tz] Uruguay out of DST

Zoidsoft zoidsoft at gmail.com
Sat Jul 11 21:03:36 UTC 2015

I've brought this up before, but I think it might be time to try to
automate updates by taking user data from PC's, iPhone's etc.  Some people
misunderstood my suggestion before, but I'm old enough to remember a time
before the internet, cell phones and when there was no such thing as color
TV.  We used to set these gadgets manually.  To make this more clear, we
should be taking input from users as to what time it is in each region and
then analyze this data statistically to see if the deviation in each region
is enough to warrant a change in the database.  Where I wasn't clear about
last time is that one would have to differentiate between data set by the
database and data set by individual users.  A dialog should come up on
occasion to ask if the time displayed is correct for the location of the
user.  Corrections can be done using iteration until a certain accuracy
level is reached (not all devices will be correct).

I've considered that such power might be abused by trolls, but given that
most users keep their clocks updated and will negate incorrect times,
trolls in the minority would just be overridden.  It's an idea in the early
stages but if hashed out more completely, it can potentially save a lot of

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Peter Ilieve <peter at aldie.co.uk> wrote:

> On 11 Jul 2015, at 20:42, Deborah Goldsmith <goldsmit at apple.com> wrote:
> >
> > Meanwhile, the current situation is what it is, and we need to get tz
> updates to customers as quickly as we can. I wouldn’t want to see IANA rush
> data out before it’s vetted, or if further revisions seem likely, but
> neither do I want to see IANA sit on the data if it’s unlikely to change.
> IANA should not be making assumptions about how much time users of the tz
> database “ought to” need to get it to their customers.
> I don’t think it is IANA that is sitting, or rushing, or making
> assumptions.
> My understanding is that IANA just hosts the mailing list and the data.
> The tz project is very much a volunteer effort. Please don’t make it seem
> more official than it is.
> I agree with Guy Harris on this. If Apple can distribute the digital camera
> raw updates more quickly/frequently than OS updates then it ought to be
> possible to do something similar for tz updates. I’m not knocking Apple
> here, I’m a happy user of their stuff.
> Even if this was an official IANA thing the problem would remain.
> The government of Elbonia is still going to decide to fiddle with
> their clocks next week even if IANA tells them they shouldn’t.
>                 Peter Ilieve
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