[tz] [SPAM]Re: Time Zone City for China

John Haxby john.haxby at oracle.com
Thu Jul 23 09:23:06 UTC 2015

On 22/07/15 23:34, Brian Inglis wrote:
> On 2015-07-22 05:12, John Haxby wrote:
>> Oh, and it reports my current time zone as "Europe/London (LMT)" which
>> is a little weird.  And I know I'm used to this living in a country with
> What is reporting your zone - Fedora date or KDE?
> Check your time has not rolled back three centuries, as zdump shows:
> Europe/London Wed Dec 1 00:01:14 1847 UT = Tue Nov 30 23:59:59 1847 LMT
> isdst=0 gmtoff=-75
> Europe/London Wed Dec 1 00:01:15 1847 UT = Wed Dec 1 00:01:15 1847 GMT
> isdst=0 gmtoff=0

It's just KDE that has lost its marbles.

>> four possible names, but I can search for "United Kingdom" and find
>> London but Britain, Great Britain and England all fail to find anything.
> Try GB - ISO 3166-1 Alpha 2 country code - parts of the UK would be in
> ISO 3166-2
> country subdivisions  - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:GB.
>> The Scots, Welsh and those in Ulster are going to be similarly
>> disappointed.   Especially the Scots :)
> For accurate historical times in Ulster, Dublin mean time was used until
> 1916-10-01 02:00,
> so a historical database would have to split off an Ulster or Belfast
> time zone to reflect
> the difference before 1916 and separation after 1921.
> Only difference in Scotland was adoption of New Style year starting
> 1600-01-01,
> still using the Julian calendar, compared to 1752-01-01 in England,
> Wales, Ireland,
> prior to adopting the Gregorian calendar in all of the UK and colonies
> after 1752-09-02.
> This also changed the start of the tax year from Anunciation/Lady Day
> Mar 25 Julian until
> 1752 to Apr 6 Gregorian from 1753.

It wasn't the historic time that's at issue.   Any number of
choose-a-country drop down boxes require a bit of hunting around.  If
I'm lucky, "United Kingdom" is at the top, if not I scroll down to the
end and look for it there among the other Uniteds.   Sometimes it's not
there so whizz back up to the "G"s and look for Great Britain.  That's
usually enough because if someone wants England then it's going to be a
choice of the four countries/principalities of the United Kingdom of
Great Britain and Northern Ireland.  I've yet to see "Britain" as a
choice.   Or the seven ancient kingdoms :)

The TZ database is right not to try to assign cities to countries in
most cases.   Continents are bad enough:



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