[tz] Ulyanovsk, Altai Krai and Altai republic on their way to change time zones

[Matt Johnson (PNP)]

Sorry, I just realized my mistake.  Ulyanovsk derives from Europe/Moscow, but Astrakhan derives from Europe/Volgograd.  So then, I assume we will indeed need two separate entries in order to maintain the history.  Europe/Ulyanovsk and Europe/Astrakhan?

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Johnson (PNP) 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 2:16 PM
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Subject: RE: [tz] Ulyanovsk, Altai Krai and Altai republic on their way to change time zones

Also, if Ulyanovsk and Astrakhan are both to share the same zone entry, then should the zone name actually be Europe/Ulyanovsk, since it has a larger population (according to Wikipedia)?

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Johnson (PNP)
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:47 PM
To: tz at iana.org
Cc: 'Alexander Krivenyshev' <wtz at worldtimezone.com>
Subject: RE: [tz] Ulyanovsk, Altai Krai and Altai republic on their way to change time zones

Ulyanovsk is currently in Europe/Moscow, moving to align with Samara.  It is the same move as Astrakhan, but it is physically adjacent to Samara where Astrakhan is further south and detached.   Should we use Europe/Astrakhan for both Astrakhan and Ulyanovsk since the transitions match?  Or should there be a separate Europe/Ulyanovsk zone?  I don't think Europe/Samara will work, since the previous entries won't align.

Altai Republic and Altai Krai are both currently in Asia/Omsk.  As far as I can tell, Omsk is not changing, so again this would split.  Neither Altai region has a city named Altai.  The largest by population appears to be Barnaul.  Gorno-Altaysk is much smaller.  So - Asia/Barnaul seems appropriate for a new zone name?

We've already applied the Zabaykalsky Krai (Asia/Chita) change in 2016a.  We've also already been discussing the creation of Europe/Astrakhan.  There are two others still to discuss:

- Asia/Magadan is moving (in entirety) from UTC+10 to UTC+11

- Asia/Sakhalin is moving (in entirety) from UTC+10 to UTC+11

All of these changes are to take effect on March 27, 2016, at 2:00 AM local time (in each zone).

We've been discussing this here at Microsoft as well, and as best as we can tell, it appears that all of these bills are supported and likely to pass.  We have received the following email from a representative of the Russian government (in Russian):
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=20A38A536DDBE27D!907459&authkey=!ACxAEs4NBfV92yM&ithint=file%2cpdf

Thanks,

Matt Johnson
Microsoft



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Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:37 AM
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Subject: [tz] Ulyanovsk, Altai Krai and Altai republic on their way to change time zones

Ulyanovsk, Altai Krai and Altai republic on their way to change time zones

by March 27, 2016 at 2am.





Today (Feb. 17, 2016) Russian State Duma passed the bill in the first reading for 3 more regions to change their time zones

(https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fasozd2.duma.gov.ru%2f&data=01%7c01%7cmatt.johnson%40microsoft.com%7c03912b812881470bf30608d337d205de%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=PkaclYpxhhhUM9t6bJfgbMDnuBnZF3PiatmGHgrP7Io%3d):



- Ulyanovsk Oblast / Ulyanovsk from MSK to MSK+1 (UTC+3 to UTC+4) same as Astrakhan Oblast



- Altai republic / Gorno-Altaysk MSK+3 to MSK+4 (UTC+6 to UTC+7) to Krasnoyarsk time zone



- Altai Krai / Barnaul MSK+3 to MSK+4 (UTC+6 to UTC+7)  to Krasnoyarsk time zone



920582-6

On Amendments to Article 5 of the Federal Law "On the Calculation of Time" 
(on reference of the Ulyanovsk Oblast / Ulyanovsk to the 3rd time zone, 
MSK+1, UTC+4) 

02/17/2016- The State Duma passed the bill in the first reading; 



935532-6

On Amendments to Article 5 of the Federal Law "On the Calculation of Time" 
(on reference of the Altai republic / Gorno-Altaysk to the 6th time zone, 
MSK+4, UTC+7)

02/17/2016- The State Duma passed the bill in the first reading; 



944348-6

On Amendments to Article 5 of the Federal Law "On the Calculation of Time" 
(on reference of the Altai Krai / Barnaul to the 6th time zone, MSK+4, 
UTC+7) 

02/17/2016- The State Duma passed the bill in the first reading; 





With 95% certainty these 3 more regions will change their time zones by 
March 27, 2016 at 2am.



Alexander Krivenyshev

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.worldtimezone.com&data=01%7c01%7cmatt.johnson%40microsoft.com%7c03912b812881470bf30608d337d205de%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=LHesLGcwwUA%2bAEwdDyCVBw1tWTu%2bAG9UIf%2bRWseoJxo%3d