[tz] Why did you rename Russian zone name abbreviations

Steven R. Loomis srl at icu-project.org
Thu Nov 3 17:01:56 UTC 2016

Thanks for the interesting CLDR discussion.  I don’t have a demo offhand that addresses this specific case, but I can try to work on one.

CLDR doesn’t provide implementation, but libraries such as ICU do

In any event, if there are CLDR (or ICU) specific questions, they may be more appropriate on the mailing lists such as those listed on http://www.unicode.org/consortium/distlist.html

 Steven  ( in the middle of several hours of CLDR and ICU presentations at IUC40 )

El 11/1/16 3:04 PM, "Brian Inglis" <tz-bounces at iana.org en nombre de Brian.Inglis at SystematicSw.ab.ca> escribió:

>On 2016-11-01 11:24, Random832 wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016, at 12:12, Paul Eggert wrote:
>>> On 10/31/2016 01:39 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
>>>> I wouldn't be surprised if similar practices exist in other
>>>> non-English speaking countries
>>> I'm afraid we don't have the resources to cover common practices in
>>> languages other than English, even if these languages use Latin-letter
>>> abbreviations that may have been derived from English originally. This
>>> sort of thing is better addressed by CLDR <http://cldr.unicode.org/>,
>>> which has a mandate to cover time zone abbreviations in non-English
>>> locales.
>> The simple fact is, they don't have a reference implementation of
>> strftime, and we do. Maybe it's time to step up.

ICU has u_sprintf http://icu-project.org/apiref/icu4c/ustdio_8h.html#a762fa0be07b80294eb9b5eb42bf063d6

>> Also, there's a difference between doing localization in general and
>> accepting a single abbreviation used in a single language that is not
>> English when there is no English abbreviation to conflict. We absolutely
>> do have the resources to do the latter, you just don't *want* to -
>> that's not the same thing.
>Perhaps someone who regularly uses CLDR could post a simple demo of tz
>abbreviation L10N.
>Debian packaging configuration distributes I18N templates in 23 languages for
>	dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
>aka tzselect in /var/lib/dpkg/info/tzdata.templates - also useful to find words
>other languages use for time zone, countries, territories, and municipalities.
>Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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