[tz] Please Don't Feed the Trolls (was Kyiv not Kiev)

[Petro Ord]

> Corrections for times in the past are also welcome (e.g. for last
> winter), but note that "the wrong time" means that the local time
> indicated for the zone differs from the actual time that people in that
> region lived their lives by, e.g. transport departure and arrival times,
> store opening and closing times, work day start and end times, TV and
> radio programme start and end times, etc.

Fascinating how requirements differ for countries.
For Crimea update a notice was enough

> Alexander Krivenyshev wrote:
> http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_17/Crimea-to-switch-to-Moscow-Time-as-
> of-March-30-8334/
> Thanks for the heads-up.  That notice says that they'll switch to Moscow
> Time at 2pm, which means they'd advance their clocks by an hour once at
> 01:00 UTC (03:00 local time) and once again at 14:00 local time.

No transport departure and arrival times, no store opening and closing
times, no work day start and end times, no TV and radio programme
start and end times, etc., just a notice will do.

Is the news about russia revoking Lithuania independence a valid notice?
https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1714852/russia-s-duma-mulls-revoking-recognition-of-lithuanian-independence

> When Ukraine successfully reclaims the occupied territory I assume one
> thing they will do is revert the local time back to Ukrainian standards
United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262 adopted on 27 March
2014 affirmed the General Assembly's commitment to the territorial
integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders and
underscored the invalidity of the 2014 Crimean referendum.

What will you do if russia decides to change time in Mariupol and Kherson?
Will the answer be that theory.html says, "If boundaries between
regions are fluid, such as during a war or insurrection, do not bother
to create a new timezone merely because of yet another boundary
change."
(https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2022-May/031414.html)

So the question ``Why are some changes done fast while Kyiv not Kiev
errors remained unseen?" is open.





ср, 29 июн. 2022 г. в 18:01, Ian Abbott <abbotti at mev.co.uk>:


>
> On 29/06/2022 14:27, Petro Ord wrote:
> >> As far as I can tell, there have been no reports that the wrong time was
> >> shown for Europe/Simferopol during winter time (when its local time
> >> differs from Europe/Kyiv).
> >
> > Valid point - I'll make one during winter time in order to be more
> > specific on the problem issued.
>
> Corrections for times in the past are also welcome (e.g. for last
> winter), but note that "the wrong time" means that the local time
> indicated for the zone differs from the actual time that people in that
> region lived their lives by, e.g. transport departure and arrival times,
> store opening and closing times, work day start and end times, TV and
> radio programme start and end times, etc.
>
> > # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2014-03-17):
> > # time change at 2:00 (2am) on March 30, 2014
> > # https://vz.ru/news/2014/3/17/677464.html
> > # From Paul Eggert (2014-03-30):
> > # Simferopol and Sevastopol reportedly changed their central town clocks
> >
> > I do not see this request complaining that the time was incorrect. The
> > request implies that russia decided to change the time on the
> > territory that does not belong to russia.
> > I thought that tz update decisions should not be done upon political
> > and/or ideological reasons, but, apparently, it does not apply to
> > russian requests.
>
> When Ukraine successfully reclaims the occupied territory I assume one
> thing they will do is revert the local time back to Ukrainian standards,
> and the TZ entry for Europe/Simferopol will be updated to reflect that.
> It's not about supporting one side or another, it's about reflecting the
> actual situation on the ground.  The historical parts of the TZ database
> contain several entries for time changes imposed by German occupying
> forces during WWII for example.
>
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