[tz] Change Request: Europe/Kiev to Europe/Kyiv

Matt Johnson-Pint mattjohnsonpint at gmail.com
Thu Mar 17 17:48:27 UTC 2022

I wholeheartedly agree.  It's time we switch the Zone entry to
Europe/Kyiv.  We can have Europe/Kiev be a Link in the backward file.

Paul - PLEASE make this change now.  From your own commentary in the europe

> Admittedly English-language spelling of Ukrainian names is controversial,
and some day "Kyiv" may become substantially more popular in English; in
the meantime, stick with the traditional English "Kiev" as that means less
disruption for our users.

We have reached that day.  Kyiv is substantially more popular in English,
and continuing to use Kiev is now MORE disruptive, as it makes many of
our users appear to be friendly to Russian aggression, and makes us
continue to have this debate.


On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:29 AM Fred Gleason via tz <tz at iana.org> wrote:

> On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:15, John Haxby via tz <tz at iana.org> wrote:
> I've been wondering that myself.  Anyone following recent events on the
> BBC news and websites will be in no doubt about the spelling pronunciation.
> I think all the UK press is now using "Kyiv" as well.
> Even the local supermarkets are changing: the chicken and garlic dish has
> been renamed "Chicken Kyiv" (well, Sainsbury's and the Coop, I think).
> FWIW, The New York Times (widely considered the ‘newspaper of record’ in
> the US) has been using ‘Kyiv’ for some time now.
> While I’m Not A Fan of changing IDs just because of drifts in usage in the
> popular culture, the precedent has already been set WRT tzdb —e.g.
> Asia/Kolkata. I think we’ve hit the tipping point here as well.
> Cheers!
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