<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Incorrect..</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Iso 3166</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ramallah is recognized in the State of Palestine.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sevastopol is recognized as a city as being in Ukraine.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you disagree politically, you can raise your issue with the iso.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Galaxy</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Watson Ladd <watson@cloudflare.com> </div><div>Date: 2021-09-21 18:49 (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: dpatte <dpatte@relativedata.com> </div><div>Cc: Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch>, "Clive D.W. Feather" <clive@davros.org>, tz <tz@iana.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: [tz] Preparing to fork tzdb </div><div><br></div></div>On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 3:42 PM dpatte <dpatte@relativedata.com> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> The strategy used since tz was created has caused many political arguments and decisions in this group instead of deferring the decisions to the ISO that has this mandate.<br><br>ISO countries doesn't solve some of the thorny political issues,<br>because ISO codes don't take a position on boundary disputes or naming<br>disputes. E.g. Crimea. When the invasion happened, the civil time in<br>the region occupied changed. That means a new zone entry needed to be<br>created. I don't know how defering to ISO resolves the naming of that<br>one.<br><br>The other example would be Palestine. Regardless of what ISO decides,<br>the time in Palestine is what it is, and is different from Israel in<br>funny ways, and the territories that have gone back and forth have<br>gone back and forth and thus need new entries.<br><br>What ISO countries do solve is the vanity issues of people wanting<br>timezones with their local big cities in them appearing in a list,<br>even if the timezone is the same as one in another country.<br><br>Sincerely,<br>Watson Ladd<br>><br>><br>><br>> Sent from my Galaxy<br>><br>><br>> -------- Original message --------<br>> From: Eliot Lear via tz <tz@iana.org><br>> Date: 2021-09-21 16:17 (GMT-05:00)<br>> To: "Clive D.W. Feather" <clive@davros.org>, Watson Ladd <watson@cloudflare.com><br>> Cc: tz <tz@iana.org><br>> Subject: Re: [tz] Preparing to fork tzdb<br>><br>> And who gets to decide? The strategy used over the entire existence of<br>> this database has obviated the need to answer that question.<br>><br>> Eliot<br>><br>> On 21.09.21 22:07, Clive D.W. Feather via tz wrote:<br>> > Watson Ladd via tz said:<br>> >> If what we want is one time zone per country, let's have that<br>> >> conversation instead of having it happen by accident as a side effect<br>> >> of rules that don't mention countries.<br>> > I agree.<br>> ><br>> > But, if we want to talk about countries, what would surely be more useful<br>> > is a list, for each country, of all the time zones that are at least<br>> > partially in that country.<br>> ><br>> > Oh, please define "country". Is England a country? Wales? The Netherlands<br>> > (as opposed to the Kingdom of the Netherlands)? Sealand? Taiwan? Macau?<br>> > Bir Tawil? Liberland?<br>> ><br>> > Do you really want to open this can of worms?<br>> ><br>><br>><br></body></html>