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    <p>Just on this point:<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05.11.21 17:42, Brian Park wrote:<br>
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              <p>Better to stick with what we have: observe what people
                on the ground think the time is.<br>
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              style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I've seen
              this a few times, but I don't understand it. No normal
              person on the ground thinks their time is
              "America/Los_Angeles". It's "US/Pacific". <span
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                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">No normal
                person in Toronto thinks their time is
                "America/Toronto". Their country is not even America.
                They think their timezone is "Canada/Eastern". People</span>
              are forced to use "America/Los_Angeles" or
              "America/Toronto" because the TZDB forced that
              nomenclature upon our users. It seems a mapping layer,
              like the 'countryzone' file containing ISO-countries,
              would be the one that provides the timezones that people
              use on the ground.<br>
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    <p>Second verse, same as the first: these are database keys, not
      user interface presentation.  Nobody is forced to present any
      database key to a user.  If you have locale awareness, as most
      modern user-facing systems have, you're going to be far more
      granular anyway.</p>
    <p>Eliot</p>
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