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<p>I've simply set the timezone to Etc/GMT+2 in the meantime. It
should work fine in the interim. The only thing I worry about is
the following scenario:</p>
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<li>User sets their timezone to Asia/Beirut on old tzinfo which
thinks its DST time<br>
</li>
<li>Disables NTP and manually sets the time without DST offset<br>
</li>
<li>All other calendars/etc is messed up and off by one hour<br>
</li>
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<p>This is made worse by the fact that Alfa and Touch (only telecom
providers) recommended their customers to just manually set the
time instead of adjusting the UTC offset... All around terrible
situation compounded by poor advise from these companies :( <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/26/23 01:12, Jad Baz wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Indeed</div>
<div dir="auto">Suppose the decision is not reversed though and
the IANA db remains on 2023b<br>
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<div dir="auto">Vendors will pickup that version and will
rollout to their devices incrementally<br>
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<div dir="auto">The issue is that the rollout will not be
instantaneous but rather incremental across different
vendors, systems and devices over several days perhaps</div>
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<div dir="auto">In the interim period, I'm wondering how
transactions, meeting times and any sort of dealing with
anyone outside Lebanon will take place when, say, one party
is on 2023b while the other is still on 2022g</div>
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Rany Hany via tz <<a href="mailto:tz@iana.org"
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<p>My gut feeling is that this change won't last long and
will be repealed soon. The public frustration with this
change is just too great, especially seeing that it was
done on such short notice and with non-existent planning
for the ramifications/methods for carrying it out (they
didn't even contact IANA!) <br>
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<p>At any rate it does appear that the consensus in the
country is that DST is postponed and so I don't see a need
to update the timezone data... and besides what is the
protocol in these cases, a new timezone for every sect?</p>
<p>Perhaps it would be the first instance of timezones on
the basis of sect than region (or have the Tibetans beaten
us to the punch?)<br>
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<div>On 3/25/23 23:45, Tim Parenti via tz wrote:<br>
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 at 16:46, Jad Baz via tz <<a
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<div dir="auto">Lebanon is going through many
internal disputes surrounding the latest
decision to delay DST</div>
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<div>Thanks for the heads-up. This situation is
unfortunate and is just one of many reasons we
advise governments to disseminate these changes
far in advance. Thankfully, this sort of division
appears rare in recent memory, but it has the
potential to be incredibly disruptive when it does
occur, and there's not really anything we can do
about that.</div>
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<div dir="auto">All of these concerns are
important to bring to light in view of IANA's
procedures for updating timezone data:</div>
<div dir="auto">If you would ask today "what the
average person on the street would think the
time actually is", it's not at all clear what
the answer would be<br>
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Yes, it appears many in Lebanon are planning to set
their clocks forward in about 15 minutes while others
plan to wait a few more weeks. Hopefully those
differences can be reconciled, and the situation can
clear itself up somewhat over the next few days. Do
keep us posted.</div>
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<div>In the meantime we have, by coincidence of timing,
two tz versions which differ only by the Lebanese
government's recent announcement. Though it's
certainly an imperfect solution, those hoping to
observe the government's announced delay of DST could
use tz version 2023b, while those choosing to ignore
the delay could use 2023a (or even 2022g if they don't
care about handling timestamps in Egypt, Greenland,
Morocco, and Palestine.) Of course, such a split
approach would present some pretty major
interoperability challenges.</div>
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