[UA-discuss] interesting to note about emoji in mailbox name.

Asmus Freytag asmusf at ix.netcom.com
Mon Apr 15 16:17:29 UTC 2019

On 4/15/2019 8:51 AM, Andrei Kolesnikov wrote:
> It is dangerous, stated many times. And so it is out of scope for UASG.

The reason this keeps coming up is the way "out-of-scope" is understood 

One meaning is "not interesting, won't talk about, somebody else's 
concern". Another interpretation would be "Universal Acceptance 
explicitly does not apply" (e.g. because these are dangerous).

I guess, people want to see the second interpretation of "out-of-scope" 
stated more emphatically.

However, even inside the valid IDNs there are many problematic issues 
(see e-mail by Andre and my follow-up). Those issues may require a 
discussion whether "universal acceptance" and "uncritical acceptance" 
are the same thing.


> пт, 12 апр. 2019 г. в 03:30, Dr Ajay Data <ajay at data.in 
> <mailto:ajay at data.in>>:
>     Emoji in Email address example is neither part of IDN nor DNS.
>     Here it is part of mailbox name.
>     My idea of sharing is that Google and office365 receives email
>     successfully from email address where mailbox contains emoji,
>     outlook deals it just like normal email and gmail shows it dangerous.
>     *Dr. Ajay Data
>     *Founder & CEO
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Lars Steffen <lars.steffen at eco.de
>     <mailto:lars.steffen at eco.de>>  MailId : [90320017]
>     *To:* Dr Ajay Data <ajay at data.in <mailto:ajay at data.in>>,universal
>     access <ua-discuss at icann.org <mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>>
>     *Subject: *Re: [UA-discuss] interesting to note about emoji in
>     mailbox name.
>     *Date:* 11 Apr 2019 05:19:02 PM
>     May I quote from the 2 March 2018:
>     ..what we agreed to is that emojis are not part of the current
>     standard for IDN/DNS. As such it is out of scope for UASG.
>     Lars
>     *Von: *UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org>> im Auftrag von Dr Ajay Data
>     <ajay at data.in <mailto:ajay at data.in>>
>     *Datum: *Donnerstag, 11. April 2019 um 09:10
>     *An: *universal access <ua-discuss at icann.org
>     <mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>>
>     *Betreff: *[UA-discuss] interesting to note about emoji in mailbox
>     name.
>         Some Interesting things to note:
>         I am testing with Two working Valid Email Address with heart
>         shape.
>         ❤@data.in <http://data.in> and ♥@data.in <http://data.in>
>         ( ❤ - xn--qei    and    ♥ - xn--g6h )
>         When I receive email from the above ID`s, In mobile devices
>         these above hearts are shown in different red shades.
>     However If I send email to Gmail / Outlook, they consider this as 
>     Spam.  Not only spam, Gmail displays the following warning. -
>     *This message seems dangerous*
>     The sender’s email address uses abnormal characters, which might
>     be used to spoof real addresses. Avoid clicking links, downloading
>     attachments, or replying to this message.
>     Probably, we need to discuss this too and have our views around it.
>     *Dr. Ajay Data**
>     *Founder & CEO
>     Do not Remove:
>     [HID]20190411124031186[-HID]
>     Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt.Das Bild wurde vom Absender
>     entfernt.
> -- 
> Andrey Kolesnikov
> RIPN.NET <http://RIPN.NET>

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