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<p>Michele, <br>
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<p>Agree with you entirely. But I am, actually, not waiting for
exact words, details and context, because the harm is done and we
cannot do anything about it on global level. And I even don't wish
to hear the details, because I will get more frustrated.<br>
</p>
<p>What I am commenting is how members of UASG are considering those
words. That's for me only thing we can try to change right now.
And by calling it "Big development" or "VERY IMPORTANT" or
"raising awareness", is a matter for us to think what we are doing
here, who understand the basic concept of UA, and most
importantly> it was understood as part of "Govt Initiative" in
our 5 year strategic plan - we are systematically missing the UA
basics here and we salute dumb questions? <br>
</p>
<p>Dusan<br>
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tend to agree, though I’m still waiting for actual
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incredibly tiresome when people focus on that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt">Dear all,</p>
<p style="margin-left:36.0pt">This Ajay's "big news" makes
me a little bit sad and a bit worried. If the question
was quoted by Ajay how it was posted on that summit, we
have many levels of understanding issues in UASG.<br>
1. question is framed in a manner that someone forbids
using other languages in the domain names. With that
info, served to the politicians, who are by design
unaware of standards and technology, you created a
picture that ICANN or at least some Internet body force
us to use English. We can argue that it was a valid
statement 15 years ago, but now it is completely wrong.<br>
2. there is no 25 percent who speaks English, there is
less than that. You can check here -
<a
href="https://myclasstracks.com/how-many-people-speak-english/"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://myclasstracks.com/how-many-people-speak-english/</a>.
Still, this creates false impression that some minority
language is forced by ICANN or any Internet body to be
used, because we don't expect the politicians to know
the history on Internet. Internet was created in the
USA, on English language and Latin script, and existed
many years before IDNs are introduced and that's why we
have Latin script.<br>
3. Using "English language" in the question, instead of
"Latin script" (which is used the most in the world -
<a href="https://www.worldstandards.eu/other/alphabets/"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.worldstandards.eu/other/alphabets/</a>)
again is targeting political battle between East and
West. Do we need to be in that battle, as UASG?
Ironically, I presume that this question was asked on
English language... Using language instead of script is
factually wrong from UASG point of view.
</p>
<p style="margin-left:36.0pt">Together, those 3 wrong
things in the question creates a dumb image to
politicians that English language is forced by the West,
through ICANN, which is just a political statement for
the sake of West/East battle. And very hard one now in
today's geopolitical situation. I would argue that we
DON'T need such political statements while we are
tending to be apolitical in UASG.
<br>
At least, this big news are leading us into wrong
direction, and Anil's answer of 5 years of devoted work
on this makes me more worried. This question is not
something that I would like to be the message of
UASG/ICANN and I would be extra careful in today's
fragile geopolitical world.<br>
<br>
My two cents</p>
<p style="margin-left:36.0pt">Dusan </p>
<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On
11.9.2023. 17:59, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via
UA-discuss wrote:</p>
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say the question was raised, but by whom and in what
context?</span></p>
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