[UA-Tech] BIUWG action item for Tech and Measurement WGs
Satish Babu
sbabu at ieee.org
Mon Nov 20 14:40:39 UTC 2023
Hi Hervé
The EPDP on IDNs has recommended a single fee for the entire variant set
(primary label + all variants).
At the second level, the question of fees (currently being discussed as a
Phase 2 issue by the EPDP) is largely left to the registries to decide. We
will have the final recommendations in a few months' time.
With kind regards
satish
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 7:37 PM Hervé Hounzandji via UA-Tech <
ua-tech at icann.org> wrote:
> Hi Seda
>
> I have just one question :
>
> Knowing that the domain already costs x$ to the registrant.
> If there are for example 10 variants. Who pays if the variant domain names
> have to be allowed to the same registrant ?
>
> thx.
>
>
>
> Le lun. 20 nov. 2023 à 11:19, Seda Akbulut via UA-Tech <ua-tech at icann.org>
> a écrit :
>
>> Dear Technology Working Group members,
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d like to provide some background information on the second action item
>> that is assigned to Tech WG by UASG as a follow up with their meeting with
>> the ICANN Board IDN UA Working Group (BIUWG). Please kindly go through this
>> information and share your input about the points for UASG Tech WG
>> discussion provided in the end. You may share your input in response to
>> this email or during the Tech WG meetings (the next one is today 20 Nov at
>> 15:00 UTC).
>>
>>
>>
>> *Background information about the BIUWG and UASG meeting:*
>>
>> BIUWG raised that IDN variant TLDs may have an impact on UA and asked if
>> UASG is considering it? While UASG is aware of the policy discussions
>> within ccNSO and GNSO, but UASG has not considered this topic yet. However,
>> UASG will start looking into the UA challenges which may be caused by IDN
>> variant domain names and get back to BIUWG.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Action Item for Tech WG and Measurement WG: *UASG to look into the
>> impact of IDN Variant TLDs on UA.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Background information about IDN Variants on both top-level and second
>> level considerations:*
>>
>> - Based on the IDN-related Outputs under Topic 25 in the GNSO New
>> gTLD Subsequent Procedures (SubPro) PDP Final Report
>> <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/final-report-newgtld-subsequent-procedures-pdp-02feb21-en.pdf>,
>> following recommendations are related to variant domain names.
>> - *Variant TLDs are allowed for the same-entity.*
>> - *Recommendation 25.5* “IDN gTLDs identified as variant TLDs
>> of already existing or applied for gTLDs will be allowed only if labels are
>> allocated to the same entity and, when delegated, only if they have the
>> same back-end registry service provider. This policy must be captured in
>> relevant Registry Agreements.”
>> - *Variant domain names needs to be assigned to the same
>> registrant.*
>> - *Recommendation 25.6* “A given second-level label under any
>> allocated variant TLD must only be allocated to the same entity/registrant,
>> or else withheld for possible allocation only to that entity (e.g., s1
>> under {t1, t1v1, …}, e.g., s1.t1 and s1.t1v1).”
>> - *Recommendation 25.7* “For second-level variant labels that
>> arise from a registration based on a second-level IDN table, all
>> allocatable variant labels in the set must only be allocated to the same
>> entity or withheld for possible allocation only to that entity (e.g., all
>> allocatable second-level labels {s1, s1v1, …} under all allocated variant
>> TLD labels {t1, t1v1,…}).
>> - *It is not required that each variant domain name to behave the
>> same.*
>> - *Recommendation 25.8* “Second-level labels derived from
>> Recommendation 25.6 or Recommendation 25.7 are not required to act, behave,
>> or be perceived as identical.”
>> - For example*,* s1.t1 can point to a Traditional Chinese
>> content website, while s1v1.t1 can point to a Simplified Chinese content
>> website. As long as these two domain names are with the same registrants it
>> is ok.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Points for UASG Tech WG Discussion: *
>>
>> 1. Is there any points in the DNS ecosystem that needs variant domain
>> names to be ‘merged’?
>> 1. If a registrant has both s1.t1 and s1v1.t1, is there any needs
>> to merge two email addresses e.g. info at s1.t1, and info at s1v1.t1 and
>> point the incoming message to the same inbox? If so, what happen when
>> reply?
>> 2. If a registrant also apply the ‘variant’ concept at the mailbox
>> part e.g. info1 at s1.t1 and info1v1 at s1.t1 is there any need to merge
>> the two mail boxes/mail accounts?
>> 3. Others?
>> 2. Is there any other considerations needs, based on the SubPro
>> Recommendations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Seda
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Seda Akbulut <seda.akbulut at icann.org>
>> *Date: *5 October 2023 Thursday 17:55
>> *To: *Seda Akbulut via UA-Tech <ua-tech at icann.org>
>> *Subject: *BIUWG action item for Tech and Measurement WGs
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>> As a follow up of the meeting conducted between UASG Coordination WG and
>> ICANN Board IDN&UA Working Group (BIUWG), UASG Tech WG and Measurement WG
>> have been tasked and started to handle some of the action items from that
>> meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> In that meeting, one of the topics raised by BIUWG was “Status of UA
>> Readiness by Next New gTLD Round“.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Background information about the Next Round: *
>>
>> As you know, the Domain Name System (DNS) is expanding with the IDN
>> ccTLDs, IDNs and New gTLD Program since 2009. In January 2012, ICANN
>> launched the New gTLD Program and since the launch of the New gTLD Program,
>> more than 1,200 gTLDs have been delegated into the DNS root zone. The next
>> round of the New gTLD Program is expected to in Q2 2026. The next round of
>> new gTLDs will also offer opportunities to create a more multilingual and
>> inclusive Internet for the billions of people who speak and write in
>> different languages and scripts and are yet to come online. More
>> information about the Next Round
>> <https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/next-round>.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Background information about the BIUWG and UASG meeting:*
>>
>> BIUWG raised that IDNs (and their UA) is a big part of the next new gTLD
>> round. They raised the following questions:
>>
>> - Will this focus on IDNs promote UA adoption, expose the UA
>> limitations further or raise UA issue in a way that community tries to
>> resolve it?
>>
>>
>>
>> UASG Leadership shared that as this requires more study. So the UASG aims
>> to answer this question in writing after discussing within the Tech WG and
>> Measurement WG. If it requires some studies to be able to provide data
>> driven feedback, the UASG WGs may identify the necessary studies.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Action Item for Tech WG and Measurement WG: *
>>
>> UASG to explore UA-readiness by the next new gTLD round and how UA could
>> impact the next round. This topic will be handled in the future WG meetings.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope you find this information helpful. Please feel free to share your
>> inputs either on this email thread or by joining the Tech and Measurement
>> WG meetings.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Seda
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Action Item **(Assigned to UA Tech and UA Measurement WGs) *
>>
>> *UASG to explore UA-readiness by the next new gTLD round and how UA could
>> impact the next round.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Seda Akbulut
>>
>>
>>
>> UA Program Manager
>>
>> Global Domains and Strategy
>>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>
>>
>>
>> İstanbul, Türkiye
>>
>> www.icann.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
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