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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=RU link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>We have investigated the issue with Russian Cyrillic @ recently and got the following results: <a href="https://поддерживаю.рф/участникам/документация/как-набрать-символ-собака-на-клавиатуре-и-не-переключать-раскладку.php">https://поддерживаю.рф/участникам/документация/как-набрать-символ-собака-на-клавиатуре-и-не-переключать-раскладку.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>(You can use online translation to read in English)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>BR,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Maria Kolesnikova<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> UA-EAI <ua-eai-bounces@icann.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Svancarek (CELA) via UA-EAI<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> </span>Душан Стојичевић<span lang=EN-US> <dusan@dukes.in.rs>; Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt.gulbrandsen@icann.org><br><b>Cc:</b> ua-tech@icann.org; ua-eai@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-EAI] [EXTERNAL] Re: [UA-Tech] A request concerning entering domain names<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:JA'>Just clarifying the Cyrillic @ problem – I have the Serbian Cyrillic language pack installed on my personal Windows 10 for some reason, and the soft keyboard does offer @ <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:JA'><img border=0 width=671 height=219 style='width:6.993in;height:2.2777in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D9FC3B.7779EED0" alt="cid:image001.png@01D9FB91.DFDCF5D0"></span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:JA'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:JA'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> UA-EAI <</span><a href="mailto:ua-eai-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-US>ua-eai-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span lang=EN-US>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>????? ?????????? via UA-EAI<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 25, 2023 4:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> Arnt Gulbrandsen <</span><a href="mailto:arnt.gulbrandsen@icann.org"><span lang=EN-US>arnt.gulbrandsen@icann.org</span></a><span lang=EN-US>><br><b>Cc:</b> </span><a href="mailto:ua-tech@icann.org"><span lang=EN-US>ua-tech@icann.org</span></a><span lang=EN-US>; </span><a href="mailto:ua-eai@icann.org"><span lang=EN-US>ua-eai@icann.org</span></a><span lang=EN-US><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [UA-EAI] [UA-Tech] A request concerning entering domain names<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Dear Arnt,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thanks for dealing with that problem, which I was highlighting since the beginning of UASG.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Armenian and Arabic, to the best of my knowledge, are with same "dot" problem, while Cyrillic (in any form) doesn't have "dot" but "at" problem: (regarding EAI) there's no @ in Cyrillic at all (speaking of Windows OS, while on Macs things may be different).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Dušan <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>19. 9. 2023. 16:21, Arnt Gulbrandsen via UA-Tech <</span><a href="mailto:ua-tech@icann.org"><span lang=EN-US>ua-tech@icann.org</span></a><span lang=EN-US>> је написао/ла:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p><span lang=EN-US>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US>When I enter a domain name such as icann.org, I just press nine keys in sequence, i, c and so on. Five keys for icann, then one for the dot, then three for org.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US>When a Chinese user enters a Chinese domain in a similarly simple way, the result may be </span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-family:"MS Gothic";mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>星巴克。商</span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>标</span><span lang=EN-US>, while the correct result would be </span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-family:"MS Gothic";mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>星巴克</span><span lang=EN-US>.</span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-family:"MS Gothic";mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>商</span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>标</span><span lang=ZH-CN> </span><span lang=EN-US>(note the different dots). Entering the correct domain requires entering </span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-family:"MS Gothic";mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>星巴克</span><span lang=EN-US>, changing keyboard layout to get latin letters, entering the ASCII dot, changing keyboard layout back, then entering </span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-family:"MS Gothic";mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>商</span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>标</span><span lang=EN-US>. Bothersome. You will not be surprised to learn that forgetting to switch layout is a common mistake.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US>I’d like to know which other locales have a similar problem, and for that I want to ask a favour.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US>There are many people here who use different keyboard input methods. If your keyboard input method has a similar problem, can you send me the dot and an example domain (which does not need to exist, something like example.yourtld would do)? Offlist please. That is to </span><a href="mailto:arnt.gulbrandsen@icann.org"><span lang=EN-US>arnt.gulbrandsen@icann.org</span></a><span lang=EN-US>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US>If a keyboard method uses non-latin letters but includes the ASCII full stop, I’m interested in that too. Always heartening to know when something is not buggy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p><span lang=EN-US>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US>Arnt Gulbrandsen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US>UA Technology Sr. Manager, ICANN<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p><span lang=EN-US>+32 492 374706<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>