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<p>Dear Jothan, all,<br>
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<p>Medals are given after the battle. Higher ranks are given during
the battle.</p>
<p>Guessing that we are talking about the medals. Recognition is
always good, give motivation, and it depends on the model how the
"medals" are introduced. It seems to me that this idea is aligning
with UA day, trophy to be given as annual UA award.<br>
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<p>Champions of the world, says NBA for Denver Nuggets last year -
strong words, "the champions" and "the world". We would do
practically the same, champion of the world of UA, and this raise
the questions - who elects the champions, by which criteria... NBA
is basketball championship and champs are decided on court by
winning, while UA is not, and it must goes under the subjective
set of criteria and as a decision of some people... <br>
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<p>By that subjective argumentation on award, we can also make some
demotivated, who expected the award. </p>
<p>So, all in all, I am for it, it is a good idea, but the model of
rewarding should be clear and clean. We need all people to say -
yup, that person or that company deserve such award, he earned it
fairly. <br>
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<p>My two cents,</p>
<p>Dusan <br>
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<p> <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24.10.2023. 11:28, Jothan Frakes via
UA-Tech wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks Jim.
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<div dir="auto">I didn't see any other responses so I thought
that my message may not have gotten through to the list.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Hopefully it might be a modest lift with large
gain</div>
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<div dir="auto">-Jothan</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 24, 2023, 9:49 AM
Jim DeLaHunt <<a href="mailto:list%2Buasg@jdlh.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">list+uasg@jdlh.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>I love, love, love this idea of a "Champions of UA"
Recognition! <br>
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<p>UASG does not have the power to compel organisations to
become universally accepting. We cannot really affect the
economic incentives which will, I believe, determine what
universal acceptance happens or does not happen. But we
certainly can celebrate those who are doing a good job. <br>
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<p>We can take as models various awards: the Nobel prizes[1]
for benefit to humanity, the Collier Trophy[2] for
aeronautics and astronautics, the Academy Awards[3]
("Oscars") for the film industry, etc. <br>
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<p>I suspect that $10,000 spent on developing an award for
best Universal Acceptance accomplishment of the year,
conferring it, and publicising it, might well advance
Universal Acceptance more than hiring developers to
evaluate and report on the universal acceptance flaws of a
software library. <br>
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<p>Great idea, Jothan!</p>
<p>Best regards,<br>
—Jim DeLaHunt<br>
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<p>[1] Nobel Prizes <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize></a><br>
[2] Collier Trophy <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collier_Trophy"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collier_Trophy></a><br>
[3] Academy Awards <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Awards"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Awards></a><br>
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<div>On 2023-10-09 10:34, Jothan Frakes via UA-Tech wrote:<br>
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Rather than pointing this likely familiar and
aggressively inconvenient aspect of the gaps that plague
UA, I came up with an idea that I'd like to float, and
in the context of the budget planning, would hope to see
resourced to recognize UA champions who step up.
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<div><b>HERE IS THE IDEA - WHAT IF THERE WERE A
"Champions of UA" RECOGNITION:</b><br>
There were some dedicated recognition pages where
companies' or engineer's (or others' who help) names
get listed in recognition of being champions, along
with what components that they updated. I'd suggest
that this would not be expensive, and there is value
to people that could point to their name being listed
as part of their CV or other accolades.<br>
It may require special consideration due to privacy
regulation, but there's likely an opt-in process as
part of submitting.<br>
<br>
The resourcing would be the web page and some form of
coordinator / review and curation of the champions
list. If it really took hold, one could have awards,
categories or other expansion of recognition, things
like badges that could be shown on linked-in or xing,
or printed certificate plaque pdf that can be framed
and placed on office wall.</div>
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It won't solve all the gaps, and may not motivate 100%
of the key/crucial/necessary participants, but is
really not a lot, but rather than spiffs or bounties,
it is a recognition that could be meaningful enough to
attract some momentum and solutions to happen. <br>
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<div>Currently, due to there being a lot of tech debt
involved, there is low allure to shining flashlights
into the corners of how code might be looking at
domains - ASCII or IDN. Perhaps elevating and
recognizing those who do (or their employers) is a way
to help exchange the costs of doing so for some
ability to flex some accolades or virtue signalling.</div>
<div><br>
Please steal and use this idea, and if it does work,
plan that there is budget for it considered.</div>
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<div>-Jothan</div>
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