[Ws2-jurisdiction] first draft of fact solicitation questions

[parminder]

On Saturday 26 November 2016 08:08 PM, Edward Morris wrote:
> I agree with Milton.
>
> If we were to go in this direction we would also need to add something
> like "What do you think the problems would be, if any, of changing
> jurisdiction...".

I agree that it would be a pertinent question.

> Neither question would be appropriate for what is intended to be an
> exercise in factual discovery rather than subjective opinion.

What is intended is (yet) to be intended by this group. In any case,
'facts' is one of the most abused conceptual category.

parminder

>
> Ed Morris
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 26 Nov 2016, at 08:26, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu
> <mailto:milton at gatech.edu>> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, Parminder, I see this as a request for opinions, not facts.
>> The whole point of this exercise is to gain specific factual cases
>> that show actual issues, not to provide people with an excuse to
>> complain about what the “think are the problems.” I would reject
>> adding such a question to the list 
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org
>> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>
>> [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *parminder
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 23, 2016 11:54 PM
>> *To:* ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] first draft of fact solicitation
>> questions
>>
>>  
>>
>> I will like to add a general question to the below:
>>
>> What do you think are the problems, if any, with continued
>> jurisdiction of the US state over ICANN, as a US non-profit? Please
>> justify your response with appropriate examples, analysis, etc.
>> Especially, if there are existing and past instances that highlight
>> such problems please indicate them.
>>
>> parminder
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Wednesday 23 November 2016 09:50 PM, Mike Rodenbaugh wrote:
>>
>>     These seem well-stated, except perhaps they should not be looking
>>     only for personal experience, but broaden the request to seek any
>>     experience the responder is aware of?  So I suggest something like:
>>
>>      
>>
>>     1.       Are you aware of any instance in which anyone's
>>     business, privacy, or ability to use or purchase DNS-related
>>     services, has been affected by ICANN's jurisdiction in any way?
>>
>>     If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases or
>>     incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and links to
>>     any relevant documents.
>>
>>     2.       Are you aware of any instance in which ICANN's
>>     jurisdiction affected any dispute resolution process or
>>     litigation related to domain names?
>>
>>     If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases or
>>     incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and links to
>>     any relevant documents.
>>
>>      
>>
>>      
>>
>>
>>     Mike Rodenbaugh
>>
>>     RODENBAUGH LAW
>>
>>     tel/fax:  +1.415.738.8087
>>
>>     http://rodenbaugh.com 
>>
>>      
>>
>>     On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Mueller, Milton L
>>     <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>         CW and I have agreed on the following draft:
>>
>>          
>>
>>          
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>>         *Request for stakeholder input on jurisdiction issues*
>>
>>          
>>
>>         The Jurisdiction subgroup of the CCWG Accountability is
>>         asking for the community to provide factual input on the
>>         following questions:
>>
>>          
>>
>>         1.       Has your business, your privacy or your ability to
>>         use or purchase DNS-related services, been affected by
>>         ICANN's jurisdiction in any way?
>>
>>         If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases or
>>         incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and
>>         links to any relevant documents.
>>
>>          
>>
>>         2.       Has ICANN's jurisdiction affected any dispute
>>         resolution process or litigation related to domain names you
>>         have been involved in?
>>
>>         If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases or
>>         incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and
>>         links to any relevant documents.
>>
>>          
>>
>>          
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Dr. Milton L. Mueller
>>
>>         Professor, School of Public Policy
>>
>>         Georgia Institute of Technology
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>>          
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>>          
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