[Ws2-jurisdiction] Notes, recordings and transcript for WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting # 24 | 28 March 2017

Mathieu Weill mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
Mon Apr 3 12:00:48 UTC 2017


Dear Colleagues,



Further to our review of these cases during last week’s call, I have made 
some amendments to the 3 summary forms attached. These changes clarify the 
Choice of Law section mostly.



Best

Mathieu



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Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting # 24 | 28 March 2017



Hello all,



The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability WS2 
Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting #24 – 28 March 2017 will be available here: 
https://community.icann.org/x/g67RAw

 A copy of the action items and notes may be found below.



With kind regards,

Brenda Brewer, Projects & Operations Assistant

Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives (MSSI)

Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers



Action Items:

·         Staff-GS – Add Christopher Wilkinson to Questionnaire 
Review/Evaluation Team

·         Staff to create email address for Questionnaire Review/Evaluation 
Team

·         Staff-GS To send doodle poll to arrange for a meeting of the 
Questionnaire Review/Evaluation Team

Notes (includes relevant text from chat):

13 Participants at start of call

1.  Welcome

2.  Review of Agenda

Greg Shatan - (no objections)

3.  Administration

     a)    Changes to SOIs (none)

     b)   Questions to ICANN Legal – Status (awaiting response)

4.  Questionnaire Update

     a)    Status of current responses – no new responses

     b)   Questionnaire Review/Evaluation Team

                i)  Responsibilities

                    (1)  Updating the Subgroup on new responses and their 
status at each meeting

                    (2)  Proposing an evaluation framework for responses

                         (a)  Responses received will help guide creation of 
evaluation framework

Christopher Wilkinson - I responded but my name does not seem to have been 
accepted.

Greg Shatan - will add.

                         (b)  To be approved by the Subgroup

                ii)     Mail list to be created

                iii)    Meeting to be scheduled – Doodle poll to follow

5.  Review of ICANN’s Past and Current Litigation

      a)   Review of Sign-up sheet (document)

Greg Shatan - (no changes)

      b)  Review of Summary Sheet (document)

      c)   Review of Summaries

               i)   Verisign, Inc. v. ICANN V2 – MW

Mathieu Weill - (presentation of summary sheet). Did not feel comfortable 
filling in the "choice of law/gov. law" field.

Becky Burr - ICANN used to put in a choice of law claue in its contracts 
which it does not do anymore.

              ii)   State of AZ vs NTIA V2 - MW

Mathieu Weill - (presentation of summary sheet). Did not feel comfortable 
filling in the "choice of law/gov. law" field.

Greg Shatan - did the court rule on the jurisdiction argument (MW - no 
mention of it). Any questions? (none).



             iii)   Ben Haim v. Iran – MW

Mathieu Weill - (presentation of summary sheet). Did not feel comfortable 
filling in the "choice of law/gov. law" field.

Becky Burr: there was a long discussion in the cases regarding which 
attachment law (state) applied

Becky Burr: DC or California

Mathieu Weill: I'll check the case and extract the relevant parts

Becky Burr: not WOULD have, but potentially could have

Becky Burr: because the plaintiffs sought the attachment in DC

David McAuley (RySG): just getting wind of this discussion - in the case on 
screen I think coutrt applied DC law which is a tad unusual on attachment

Becky Burr: so the plaintiff controlled here

Becky Burr: yes, David, you and I are on the same wavelength

Greg Shatan -  should we add a field to the form about alternate 
jurisdictions.

Mathieu Weill - Do not think we should theorize about this - we just do our 
analysis and then look at statistics they yield.

Becky Burr: correct Mattieu

David McAuley (RySG): good point @Mathieu

Greg Shatan - Agree we should not do studies beyond what is provided in the 
materials.

6.  AOB

Greg Shatan - (none)

7.  Adjourn

Greg Shatan - Adjourned.

Decisions (none)





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