[CCWG-ACCT] AOC type Reviews and Fundamental bylaws.

Malcolm Hutty malcolm at linx.net
Thu Apr 30 16:40:44 UTC 2015

On 30/04/2015 17:25, Robin Gross wrote:
> This approach would also help to demonstrate to the larger
> community that ICANN does believe accountability and transparency
> to be among its most fundamental obligations in the course of its
> stewardship.  It seems that this is a necessary commitment to have
> in place for all of ICANN's other undertakings to have legitimacy
> and to give us confidence and the tools we need to fix further
> problems as they arise.


"Fundamental" in this context doesn't mean "important", it means
"immutable" - or at least "hard to change".

I completely agree with the sentiment, but that is dealt with in the
core values, which are held as "fundamental". Are you really sure you
want to make the frequency of ATRT Reviews, or what they are called
upon to look into, so deeply entrenched? Because that is the kind of
thing covered here.


> Thanks, Robin
> On Apr 30, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On 30-Apr-15 09:32, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
>>> Tagging too much as fundamental, and then needing to change it
>>> rapidly and frequently, would devalue the protection for those
>>> things for which there is no foreseeable reason to change them,
>>> and every reason to wish them to be deeply entrenched.
>> While the other reviews may be somewhat ephemeral and variable,
>> the ATRT review should be very solid and tough to change, hence
>> my recommendation that it, and no longer all the other imported
>> AOC be fundamental.  Originally I was proposing all AOC reviews
>> should be.  I could tell that did not have enough support and am
>> suggesting that at least the ATRT get that status as it is
>> fundamental to ongoing and sustainable accountability and
>> transparency.
>> thanks
>> avri

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