[CCWG-ACCT] Issues with Providing Public Comments on CCWG-Accountability Proposal

Fri Dec 4 20:30:32 UTC 2015

Dear Robin,

Thanks for bringing this issue to our attention. I apologize for the delayed reply but we had Staff double check on whether there was a default answer on any and all questions and the result is that there are no questions which default to either Yes or No.

I have gone through the survey myself a couple of times (without submitting, of course) and also didn’t notice any default answers to any questions.

I think perhaps what happened in your case could have been an unnoticed and involuntary click?

In any case we thank you for letting us know as we were able to double check this situation.

In regard to the binary option, I believe it was agreed following call #70.

Best regards,

León

> El 02/12/2015, a las 12:47 p.m., Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> escribió:
> 
> While looking at this survey monkey, I noticed that Recommendation 11 (on Stress Test 18) defaults to “No, I do not support this recommendation.”  All other questions have no default answer at all.  I assume this is a mistake on Recommendation 11 also, and it will quickly be fixed to not default to any answer.
> 
> I also think the form should have allowed for a commenter to say that they support some things about a recommendation, but not others.  The form forces commenters into a binary approach, which isn’t entirely helpful.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robin
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> All:
>> 
>> Two issues with public comments.  The first is primarily logistical.  The second is more fundamental.  Both are frustrating.
>> 
>> First, the "SurveyMonkey" link for the survey to respond to the Proposal is not working.  The link is https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ccwg-acct-draftproposal <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ccwg-acct-draftproposal> and the response is
>> 
>> This webpage is not available
>> 
>> 
>> ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT
>> 
>> In any event, it can be difficult to see all of a survey in advance so that responses can be drafted, reviewed and revised appropriately before being entered  into the survey.  Can a PDF or other version of the entire survey be circulated here and posted on the public comment page as soon as humanly possible, please?
>> 
>> Second, the public comment page at https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en> has the following statement:
>> 
>> The six Chartering Organizations for the CCWG-Accountability are asked to indicate their support for the recommendations in this proposal. At the same time, public participants not involved with a Chartering Organization are invited to comment on the proposal.
>> 
>> This implies that the public comment period is limited to "public participants not involved with a Chartering Organization."
>> 
>> Does this mean that, for example, the Intellectual Property Constituency is somehow barred from public comment?
>> Does this also mean that our members, e.g., INTA, are also barred from public comment (since they are "involved" with the GNSO through membership in the IPC)?
>> Does this also mean that members of our members, e.g., "Company X" (a member of INTA), is barred from public comment (since they are "involved" with the GNSO through INTA's membership in the IPC)?
>> How about members of the GAC and the ccNSO?  Are all the members barred from commenting as well?
>> If any of the above are not barred from public comment, will their public comments somehow be discounted because they are involved with a Chartering Organization, thus not "invited" to comment, and also assumed to have another outlet for their comments?
>> 
>> At the very least, it is confusing and off-putting.  At worst, it could have the effect of chasing away potential commenters due to their "involvement" with a Chartering Organization.
>> 
>> Clarification would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Greg
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