[CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] New section - ICANN Community Assembly

Seun Ojedeji seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
Mon Jul 27 18:05:50 UTC 2015


Oh there is another one called PAF? May I know what that means please (lots
of acronyms). That said, I am of the following opinion:
- I don't see any need for such mini groups
- A community forum should indeed be a forum and open to all those
interested and not for representatives.
- Such forum should hold during 1 of the ICANN public meetings to remove
any cost implications
- The need to exercise any community power should be based on the
statements made by each community (after consultation with their respective
communities, who would have participated in the community forum).
- Such statements could then trigger a ccwg(that basically consists of the
existing community leaders), who then compile high-level views on an issue
to serve as the consensus voice of the entire community
- The action/inaction of the board on such single statement would determine
whether certain community powers would then be implemented.

Overall, the current way of communicating individual SO/AC views to the
board needs to be maintained and the need to have a single view that could
lead to exercising community powers should be an act of escalation.

What i have written above may not be a desirable solution but my point is
for us to avoid de-fragmenting the community unnecessarily as it could
increase likelihood of capture and reduce diversity of views.

On 27 Jul 2015 9:28 am, "Matthew Shears" <mshears at cdt.org> wrote:

>  Hi
> Agree that having two entities is excessive - that said there are some
> differences, as I understand them from the texts/mails:
> The ICA is supposed to " be a forum where the use of any of the powers is
> discussed across the whole ICANN community – *before* any of the powers
> are exercised."
> And the PAF is "to bring together board, staff and the SO/ACs in a public
> exchange of views and questions and comments about accountability issues -
> a sort of open round table, done at an ICANN meeting once a year"
> The first is about a potential exercising of a community power, the second
> is a more general discussion on accountability matters.
> One could merge the two, create something with a more appropriate name
> such as ICANN Accountability Forum (as assembly sounds very top down and
> UN-like) and make it a once a year OR as appropriate (when a community
> power is contemplated being used).
> Matthew
> On 7/26/2015 8:09 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
> Replies. Alan
> At 25/07/2015 10:53 PM, Jordan Carter wrote:
> Thank you Keith, Alan for these comments. I've attached some comments back
> on them. All very helpful.
> I'm sorry for the confusion around the Public Accountability Forum idea.
> What I was trying to suggest was that that suggestion be incorporated in
> the ICA so two "things" aren't being created.
> From memory, the notion of the Public Accountability Forum was to bring
> together board, staff and the SO/ACs in a public exchange of views and
> questions and comments about accountability issues - a sort of open round
> table, done at an ICANN meeting once a year. The point was to help build
> mutual accountability across the ICANN system, not just vertical
> accountability - helping to solve the "who watches the watchers" conundrum.
> This could easily be done under the umbrella of the ICANN Community
> Assembly, perhaps with supplementary attendance or speaking rights e.g. for
> more of the Board, maybe the SO/AC leadership as well.
> But creating it as a separate beast seems pointless....
> cheers
> Jordan
> On 26 July 2015 at 06:54, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca >
> wrote:
>  And a bunch of comments from me.
>  Alan
>  At 25/07/2015 09:03 AM, Drazek, Keith wrote:
> Thanks Jordan, this looks very good to me. I̢۪ve made a few proposed
> red-lined editsits in the attached, supported by comments. Happy to discuss
> further.
>  Regards,
>  Keith
>  From: wp1-bounces at icann.org [ <wp1-bounces at icann.org>
> mailto:wp1-bounces at icann.org <wp1-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Jordan
> Carter
>  Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 10:57 PM
>  To: wp1 at icann.org; Accountability Cross Community
>  Subject: [WP1] New section - ICANN Community Assembly
>  Hi all
>  I have taken the draft material from an older paper about the ICANN
> Community Assembly and pulled it into one place.
>  Please see attached and debate away!  I've tried to be clear on its
> solely advisory nature, and have suggested that this would be the forum to
> use for the Public Accountability Forum suggestion made by advisors a while
> ago.
>  best,
>  Jordan
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