[CCWG-ACCT] Board comments on Recommendation 6 - Human Rights

Niels ten Oever lists at nielstenoever.net
Thu Feb 4 11:26:58 UTC 2016


Hi Bruce,

This is indeed great news, we'll discuss human rights commitments in the
CCWP HR and make suggestions to the board for your consideration.

Best,

Niels



On 02/04/2016 10:56 AM, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote:
> Dear Kavouss, dear Bruce,
> well this day is just full of good news about human rights commitment. I
> am sure many of the CCWG members are happy to hear that the board is
> developing a resolution in addition to the bylaw text! Thanks for the
> updates, Bruce.
> If CCWG members (especially those who were a part of WP4 on human
> rights) can be of any help for developing this wording together with the
> board, I am sure some of us will volunteers for this. There are some
> good examples of such commitments already adopted on practice (well,
> they probably can't serve as a quick off the cuff solution because of
> ICANN's unique mission and operations, but with some fine-tuning one can
> develop something similar in spirit). I am sure ICANN will find a proper
> wording.
> Thanks again!
> Best regards
> Tatiana
> 
> On 04/02/16 10:41, Bruce Tonkin wrote:
>> Hello Kavouss,
>>
>> We discussed both options yesterday.  We went with this option in the spirit of helping to reach closure on CCWG recommendations. 
>>
>> There is still some support on the board to also pass a resolution but we felt that we needed more time to get the wording of such a resolution right.  I welcome any suggested text that could be considered at our meeting in Marrakech.
>>
>> Regards 
>>
>> Bruce Tonkin
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 4 Feb 2016, at 8:31 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Bruce
>>> We had two alternatives
>>> 1. The current agreed text
>>> 2. An ICANN COMMITMENT RESOLUTION  test should refer to application/ respect of HR by ICANN , endorsed by CCWG
>>> You promised to work on  the second one?
>>> Where is the Commitment Board,s Resolution?
>>> Kavouss 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 4 Feb 2016, at 10:02, Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Nigel,
>>>>
>>>>>> and clearly says "human rights are NOT part of our core values".
>>>> I don't think that is quite right.
>>>>
>>>> Applicable law actually covers some human rights (e.g. slavery, torture)   - it just may not cover all the human rights that you would like to be considered by ICANN.   
>>>>
>>>> There are some human rights that clearly don't apply to ICANN - ie we don't have arrest powers so arbitrary arrest clearly doesn't apply, nor do we charge people with penal offences, or confer nationality on people.
>>>>
>>>> It is determining the relevant human rights that should apply to ICANN  beyond the basic set that is in applicable law that is the subject for work stream 2.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bruce Tonkin 
>>>>
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