[CCWG-ACCT] Removal and accountability to community (was Re: CCWG ACCT Proposed Agenda - Call #84 - Tuesday, 16 February @ 06:00 UTC)

[Greg Shatan]

Andrew,

Well said.

Greg

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Bruce Tonkin <
Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au> wrote:

> Agreed.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 18 Feb 2016, at 7:49 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 09:29:47PM +0100, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
> >> of Incorporation isnot violated , the Board is Under the mercy of the
> SO/AC
> >> .
> >> That is a very shaky and uncertain situation since just those SO and AC
> may
> >> for any unjustified reasons get together and Spill over the Board
> >> That is what the community wants ?
> >
> > I keep being surprised by others' surprise about the ability of the
> > SOs and ACs to get together and remove the board, given that for some
> > time we've been working on a system by which the SOs and ACs can get
> > together and spill the board.
> >
> > Some earlier proposals appeared (to some) to be too fragile, because
> > they made that removal easy.  But now there is the long engagement and
> > escalation process that requires a lot of work and, it is to be hoped,
> > impresses upon everyone precisely how serious a step they are taking.
> >
> > Ultimately, though, accountability to the community means that the
> > community can remove you at any time.  It also means that the
> > community needs to behave responsibly.  We should have confidence that
> > the ICANN community -- of which, after all, we are all a part -- will
> > indeed behave that way.
> >
> > In case it's useful, by way of comparison: my colleagues on the IAB
> > can remove me as chair at any time and for any reason (no explanation,
> > fulsome or otherwise, required); and with sufficient nomcom-eligible
> > IETF participants I can also be recalled at any time from the IAB.
> > The IETF has never exercised this procedure all the way through to the
> > end, because by the time things are that serious everyone realises
> > that it's time for discussion and compromise.  I think the same thing
> > will happen here.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > A
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Sullivan
> > ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
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