[atrt2] ATRT2 Final Report - Draft#2 For Your Review
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
ocl at gih.com
Mon Dec 23 23:24:07 UTC 2013
Hello all,
I must say likewise, I am also somehow confused by: "suitable for a
non-profit organization".
There are countless different types of non-profit organizations with
varying budgets and on the matter of budget, ICANN is rather special in
that it is supporting a global bottom-up multi-stakeholder policy
development process... possibly the only one of its kind in existence
(dare I say, in the universe?). Surely that complicates matters?
Kind regards,
Olivier
On 23/12/2013 23:14, Conroy, Stephen (Private) wrote:
> Hi, my concern is the words will ultimately prove unworkable and be
> unable to be implemented.
>
> Can someone nominate a ' suitable not for profit '
>
> What are the standards of the other organisation ?
>
> Stephen
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 23 Dec 2013, at 8:40 pm, "Lise Fuhr" <lise.fuhr at difo.dk
> <mailto:lise.fuhr at difo.dk>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>>
>>
>> The exact current text was agreed by the team at a conference call
>> earlier this month. The last part of paragraph 12.3 is a result of
>> comments from the last round of public comments.
>>
>> There are no preconceived agendas -- and deviations go both ways. So
>> I don't think we go too far regarding intent.
>>
>> Furthermore I am not sure I understand your comment about
>> benchmarking not being the only item to consider when trying to
>> attract staff.
>>
>> I find that the paragraph is an important part of being accountable
>> and ensuring that ICANN is accountable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Lise
>>
>>
>>
>> *Fra:*Conroy, Stephen (Private) [mailto:Stephen.Conroy at aph.gov.au]
>> *Sendt:* 23. december 2013 04:54
>> *Til:* Larisa B. Gurnick
>> *Cc:* Lise Fuhr; Brian Cute; Sabra Chartrand (Chartrand at att.net
>> <mailto:Chartrand at att.net>); ATRT2
>> *Emne:* Re: [atrt2] ATRT2 Final Report - Draft#2 For Your Review
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Could I indicate I do not support Lise current paragraph 12.3
>>
>> It is far too restrictive in its intent
>>
>> Benchmarking is important but should not be the only item to consider
>> when trying to attract staff
>>
>>
>>
>> The ATRT must not simply push preconceived agendas
>>
>>
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On 23 Dec 2013, at 10:42 am, "Larisa B. Gurnick"
>> <larisa.gurnick at icann.org <mailto:larisa.gurnick at icann.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Lise,
>>
>> Confirmed. The following wording is currently included in the
>> report, in the Executive Summary as well as the body of the report.
>>
>>
>>
>> 12.3 Every three years the Board should conduct a benchmark
>> study on relevant parameters, (e.g. size of organization, levels
>> of staff compensation and benefits, cost of living adjustments,
>> etc.) suitable for a non-profit organization. If the result of
>> the benchmark is that ICANN as an organization is not in line
>> with the standards of comparable organizations, the Board should
>> consider aligning the deviation. In cases where the Board chooses
>> not to align, this has to be reasoned in the Board decision and
>> published to the Internet community.
>>
>>
>>
>> 12.4 In order to improve accountability and transparency
>> ICANN's Board should base the yearly budgets on a multi-annual
>> strategic plan and corresponding financial framework [covering
>> e.g. a three-year period] This rolling plan and framework should
>> reflect the planned activities and the corresponding expenses in
>> that multi-annual period. This should include specified budgets
>> for the ACs and SOs. ICANN's [yearly] financial reporting shall
>> ensure that it is possible to track ICANN's activities and the
>> related expenses with particular focus on the implementation of
>> the [yearly] budget. The financial report shall be subject to
>> public consultation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Larisa
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*Lise Fuhr [mailto:lise.fuhr at difo.dk]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 22, 2013 11:03 AM
>> *To:* 'Brian Cute'
>> *Cc:* Larisa B. Gurnick; 'ATRT2'
>> *Subject:* SV: [atrt2] ATRT2 Final Report - Draft#2 For Your Review
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to keep the previous edition of 12.4 and I hope that
>> 12.3 still reads:
>>
>>
>>
>> 12.3 Every three years the Board should conduct a benchmark
>> study on relevant parameters, (e.g. size of organization, levels
>> of staff compensation and benefits, cost of living adjustments,
>> etc.) suitable for a non-profit organization. If the result of
>> the benchmark is that ICANN as an organization is not in line
>> with the standards of comparable organizations, the Board should
>> consider aligning the deviation. In cases where the Board chooses
>> not to align, this has to be reasoned in the Board decision and
>> published to the Internet community.
>>
>> Best regards and have a happy holiday,
>> Lise
>>
>>
>>
>> *Fra:*Brian Cute [mailto:brianacute at gmail.com]
>> *Sendt:* 22. december 2013 18:24
>> *Til:* Lise Fuhr
>> *Cc:* Larisa B. Gurnick; ATRT2
>> *Emne:* Re: [atrt2] ATRT2 Final Report - Draft#2 For Your Review
>>
>>
>>
>> Lise,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have added footnotes with quotes from public comments to the
>> report as well as a few edits. I intended those edits to add
>> support to the recommendations. If you are uncomfortable with
>> the impact on the recommendations you drafted, by all means fell
>> free to change th to reflect the intent of your draft.
>>
>>
>>
>> Beat,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:31 PM, "Lise Fuhr" <lise.fuhr at difo.dk
>> <mailto:lise.fuhr at difo.dk>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Larisa,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a few remarks.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not happy with the changes Sabra made on page 12 to
>> recommendation 12.4. I think the new wording changes the
>> recommendation too much. I furthermore don't understand why
>> the review team suddenly is a part of the recommendation. The
>> changes are not in the same recommendation on page 81. I
>> prefer the "original" version on page 81.
>>
>>
>>
>> At page 79 there is a comment from [s36] about "whose
>> comments is this?"
>>
>>
>>
>> The section referred to is a part of the section above and is
>> a part of the RySG comments to recommendation 12.4.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope this is understandable.
>>
>> Have a nice weekend -- and a Merry Christmas/holidays
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Lise
>>
>>
>>
>> *Fra:*atrt2-bounces at icann.org
>> <mailto:atrt2-bounces at icann.org>
>> [mailto:atrt2-bounces at icann.org] *På vegne af *Larisa B. Gurnick
>> *Sendt:* 20. december 2013 08:30
>> *Til:* ATRT2 (atrt2 at icann.org <mailto:atrt2 at icann.org>)
>> *Emne:* [atrt2] ATRT2 Final Report - Draft#2 For Your Review
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Review Team members,
>>
>>
>>
>> Attached are documents comprising ATRT2 Final Report -- Draft
>> #2*. _Please review these documents and provide staff with
>> your final edits by 23 UTC on Friday, 20 December_*_._
>>
>> Staff will circulate ATRT2 Final Report -- Draft #3 on Monday
>> 23 December.
>>
>>
>>
>> Appendix B has not changed since the Draft Report. Appendix
>> C reflects all the submitted changes. Appendix D is new.
>>
>>
>>
>> Staff made every effort to reflect your intended changes
>> consistently and accurately, and the quality control effort
>> is still continuing. However, due to the volume of changes,
>> please take care to check your portions of the document to
>> ensure accuracy. Formatting and table of contents will be
>> updated in the next draft.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a reminder, ICANN will be closed for the holidays from
>> noon on 24 December through 1 January, and the editor that
>> has been engaged to assist with the Final Report will not be
>> available after 23 December.
>>
>> Staff will be available to assist with any last minute edits
>> upon return on 2 January. Staff will submit the final report
>> for translation and coordinate the posting on the web site
>> as soon as ATRT2 confirms the Final Report documents after
>> the holidays.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> */Larisa B. Gurnick/*
>>
>> Consultant/Senior Director, Organizational Reviews
>>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>
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>>
>> 310 383-8995
>>
>>
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