[cc-humanrights] Human Rights and ICANN - session description

Tue Dec 9 11:54:53 UTC 2014

Hi everyone,

I think we may move to Wednesday morning at 10:00. the GAC-board meeting is
from 8:30 to 9:30.
We are still discussing about timing for CCWG on IG meeting.

I  also  strongly advise for 2 hours session only. what I need as input:
- session description , title  and tentative agenda (which will be online)

• a breakdown of topics to be discussed
• a list of speakers/panellists
• an explanation of the session’s goals and expected outcomes
• hyperlinks to relevant documentation.

- expected number of attendees
- preferred set-up: u shape, theatre, rounds, board, classroom etc

I will ask of course of for remote participation and adobe connect. I need
to submit the request by 15th Dec
finally, I think that is time to move to more substantive discussion to
prepare the session.

Rafik

2014-12-07 9:53 GMT+09:00 Joy Liddicoat <joy at liddicoatlaw.co.nz>:

> Hi all and thanks for the suggestions as well - Seems Wednesday at 9.30 may
> be least worst option  ....
> Perhaps we should also be willing to consider a slightly shorter session if
> that helps with scheduling (eg to reduce to 2 or 2.5 hours)
> Joy
>
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> Hi all,
>
> For your reference, the ICANN51 schedule:
> http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule-full
>
> Monday afternoon is risky because it might overlap with ICANN
> accountability
> discussions, updates on new gTLDs, etc.
>
> Wednesday morning is risky because of the CCWG on Internet Governance.
> But since the latter is from 8:30 - 9:45, if we start at 9:30, we should be
> OK with a slow start. Will you keep the same time for Singapore for this
> workshop Bill ?
>
> If so, I'd go for Wednesday morning.
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
>
> Niels ten Oever
> Head of Digital
>
> Article 19
> www.article19.org
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> On 12/05/2014 04:06 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I meant checking quickly if there are other sessions (e.g. checking
> > schedules in previous ICANN meetings or if someone is aware about new
> > session) to mitigate risks of clashes, after submission we cannot
> > request changes.
> >
> > Rafik
> >
> > 2014-12-05 23:39 GMT+09:00 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com
> >  <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>>:
> >
> > Yes, I meant Wednesday. Thanks for the correction Niels. Although
> > Olivier mentioned that Monday afternoon is not blocked..
> >
> > Considering the meeting will always clash with something else, a
> > 3-hour session could be strategic to allow people to join us at some
> > moment. We could even explicitly divide the session in "part 1" and
> > "part 2", so people that could come (although late) do not feel they
> > missed too much and still feel encouraged to attend. Of course, this
> > is besides the fact that we do have a lot of substantive topics to
> > discuss. I understand Rafik´s point, but maybe we should try to push
> > for the three hours.
> >
> > Rafik, do you suggest we wait to book the room, so we coordinate with
> > other sessions being scheduled? Isn´t it dangerous in terms of
> > securing a room for us? I think it is better to have it scheduled as
> > soon as possible. If something substantial changes on the agenda we
> > re-evaluate.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Marília
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi ,
> >
> > I think we should see the different SO/AC  sessions ( we have also the
> > CCWG on IG session too!) and find some possible time slot.
> >
> > 3 hours is long and not necessarily easy to secure room (while we
> > could do that in London for a different topic , not sure we can
> > reiterate that).
> >
> > Rafik
> >
> > 2014-12-05 22:59 GMT+09:00 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
> > <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > it is possible to program for Monday afternoon. They frown upon it
> > because that takes people out of the main room but the ALAC and other
> > WGs have staged meetings on Monday afternoon with little interference.
> > One of the problems is that by killing Fridays the week has become
> > shorter and with the Thursday circus Thursday is now dead. With Monday
> > risking being filled by the circus too we have Tuesday which is
> > impossible due to Constituency day. But guess what, I'm now told some
> > parts of Constituency day might happen on Wednesday morning too. So
> > Wednesday afternoon? Oh now, that's GNSO wrap up. <sigh>
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> >
> > On 05/12/2014 14:41, William Drake wrote:
> >> you can’t program on Monday, they block it out for official stuff
> >> they think is more important.
> >>
> >> I’d ask for Wednesday morning.
> >>
> >> BD
> >>
> >>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Niels ten Oever<niels at article19.org>
> >>> <mailto:niels at article19.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >> Hi Rafik,
> >>
> >> You're right. Tuesday is constituency day, so that is ruled out.
> >> Can we do Monday afternoon 13:30 - 16:30 ?
> >>
> >> I also found in the archives we agreed earlier on a three hour
> >> meeting, so let's go for that.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Niels
> >>
> >>
> >> Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
> >>
> >> Article 19 www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
> >>
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> >> On 12/05/2014 02:17 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Niels,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wednesday afternoon has the GNSO council public meeting and we had
> >>>>> such conflict last time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rafik
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2014-12-05 22:07 GMT+09:00 Niels ten Oever
> >> <niels at article19.org <mailto:niels at article19.org>
> >>>>> <mailto:niels at article19.org>
> >>>>> <mailto:niels at article19.org>>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 12/04/2014 06:24 PM, Rafik wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Niels,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Rafik,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I am not senior within ICANN
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, at least more senior than me ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> but I guess I can help for this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's excellent. I think we agreed on a session on Wednesday
> >>>>> afternoon, as per Bills proposal. I think two hours would
> >> suffice.
> >>>>> Three hours seems a but like a an overkill (even though I know we
> >>>>> could easily fill it).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you people think?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Niels
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Rafik
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Le 5 Dec 2014 à 02:20, Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org
> >> <mailto:niels at article19.org>
> >>>>>> <mailto:niels at article19.org>
> >>>>>> <mailto:niels at article19.org>> a
> >> écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> It seems there is consensus about the text for the session at
> >>>>>> ICANN52, or does anyone have any issues with this text? All
> >>>>>> comments are very welcome.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> _________
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Human right and ICANN - continuing the conversation
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There is a growing recognition in parts of the community that
> >>>>>> some of ICANN’s policies and other actions may have implications
> >>>>>> for human rights like freedom of expression and the right to
> >>>>>> privacy. While ICANN is not the place to negotiate over such
> >>>>>> rights, it would be advisable on political and other grounds to
> >>>>>> assess whether our work is fully consistent with internationally
> >>>>>> agreed human rights laws and policies, and to identify possible
> >>>>>> methods for addressing any incompatibilities.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> To date, these issues have been discussed on a case by case
> >>>>>> basis. This cross-community workshop will consider options for
> >>>>>> starting a process that could address them in a more systemic
> >>>>>> manner.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ________
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> What would be the process to request the room? I would be happy
> >>>>>> to send some emails, but given the experiences during last ICANN
> >>>>>> meeting it might be more effective if someone more senior in the
> >>>>>> ICANN hierarchy would send it.
> >>>>>> Any takers?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Niels
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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