[cc-humanrights] Human Rights and ICANN - session description
Niels ten Oever
niels at article19.org
Wed Dec 10 00:42:04 UTC 2014
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Hi Roy,
I though this was living draft document on an Etherpad that could give
input on discussion around the CCWG, not a statement (yet?). It might
be good if the text would reflect that, now it seems that people have
signed on to this.
Best,
Niels
On 12/09/2014 09:53 PM, Balleste, Roy wrote:
> A reminder that the draft proposal is posted here:
>
> http://www.stu.edu/law/AlexHannaLibrary/HRACProposalDraft/tabid/5785/Default.aspx
>
> Roy Balleste
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> *From:*cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Rafik
> Dammak *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 9:58 AM *To:* Marilia
> Maciel *Cc:* Human Rights *Subject:* Re: [cc-humanrights] Human
> Rights and ICANN - session description
>
> Hi,
>
> I meant checking quickly if there are other sessions (e.g. checking
> schedules in previous ICANN meetings or if someone is aware about
> new session) to mitigate risks of clashes, after submission we
> cannot request changes.
>
> Rafik
>
> 2014-12-05 23:39 GMT+09:00 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com
> <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>>:
>
> Yes, I meant Wednesday. Thanks for the correction Niels. Although
> Olivier mentioned that Monday afternoon is not blocked..
>
>
> Considering the meeting will always clash with something else, a
> 3-hour session could be strategic to allow people to join us at
> some moment. We could even explicitly divide the session in "part
> 1" and "part 2", so people that could come (although late) do not
> feel they missed too much and still feel encouraged to attend. Of
> course, this is besides the fact that we do have a lot of
> substantive topics to discuss. I understand Rafik´s point, but
> maybe we should try to push for the three hours.
>
> Rafik, do you suggest we wait to book the room, so we coordinate
> with other sessions being scheduled? Isn´t it dangerous in terms of
> securing a room for us? I think it is better to have it scheduled
> as soon as possible. If something substantial changes on the agenda
> we re-evaluate.
>
> Best,
>
> Marília
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Rafik Dammak
> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi ,
>
> I think we should see the different SO/AC sessions ( we have also
> the CCWG on IG session too!) and find some possible time slot.
>
> 3 hours is long and not necessarily easy to secure room (while we
> could do that in London for a different topic , not sure we can
> reiterate that).
>
>
> Rafik
>
> 2014-12-05 22:59 GMT+09:00 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>:
>
> Hello all,
>
> it is possible to program for Monday afternoon. They frown upon it
> because that takes people out of the main room but the ALAC and
> other WGs have staged meetings on Monday afternoon with little
> interference. One of the problems is that by killing Fridays the
> week has become shorter and with the Thursday circus Thursday is
> now dead. With Monday risking being filled by the circus too we
> have Tuesday which is impossible due to Constituency day. But guess
> what, I'm now told some parts of Constituency day might happen on
> Wednesday morning too. So Wednesday afternoon? Oh now, that's GNSO
> wrap up. <sigh>
>
> Olivier
>
>
> On 05/12/2014 14:41, William Drake wrote:
>> you can’t program on Monday, they block it out for official stuff
>> they think
> is more important.
>>
>> I’d ask for Wednesday morning.
>>
>> BD
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Niels ten Oever
>>> <niels at article19.org>
> <mailto:niels at article19.org> wrote:
>>>
>
> Hi Rafik,
>
> You're right. Tuesday is constituency day, so that is ruled out.
> Can we do Monday afternoon 13:30 - 16:30 ?
>
> I also found in the archives we agreed earlier on a three hour
> meeting, so let's go for that.
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
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> On 12/05/2014 02:17 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>> Hi Niels,
>>>>
>>>> Wednesday afternoon has the GNSO council public meeting and
>>>> we had such conflict last time.
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> 2014-12-05 22:07 GMT+09:00 Niels ten Oever
>>>> <niels at article19.org
> <mailto:niels at article19.org>
>>>> <mailto:niels at article19.org> <mailto:niels at article19.org>>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/04/2014 06:24 PM, Rafik wrote:
>>>>> Hi Niels,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rafik,
>>>>
>>>>> I am not senior within ICANN
>>>>
>>>> Well, at least more senior than me ;)
>>>>
>>>>> but I guess I can help for this.
>>>>
>>>> That's excellent. I think we agreed on a session on
>>>> Wednesday afternoon, as per Bills proposal. I think two hours
>>>> would suffice. Three hours seems a but like a an overkill
>>>> (even though I know we could easily fill it).
>>>>
>>>> What do you people think?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Niels
>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Le 5 Dec 2014 à 02:20, Niels ten Oever
>>>>> <niels at article19.org
> <mailto:niels at article19.org>
>>>>> <mailto:niels at article19.org> <mailto:niels at article19.org>>
>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>> It seems there is consensus about the text for the session
>>>>> at ICANN52, or does anyone have any issues with this text?
>>>>> All comments are very welcome.
>>>>
>>>>> _________
>>>>
>>>>> Human right and ICANN - continuing the conversation
>>>>
>>>>> There is a growing recognition in parts of the community
>>>>> that some of ICANN’s policies and other actions may have
>>>>> implications for human rights like freedom of expression
>>>>> and the right to privacy. While ICANN is not the place to
>>>>> negotiate over such rights, it would be advisable on
>>>>> political and other grounds to assess whether our work is
>>>>> fully consistent with internationally agreed human rights
>>>>> laws and policies, and to identify possible methods for
>>>>> addressing any incompatibilities.
>>>>
>>>>> To date, these issues have been discussed on a case by
>>>>> case basis. This cross-community workshop will consider
>>>>> options for starting a process that could address them in a
>>>>> more systemic manner.
>>>>
>>>>> ________
>>>>
>>>>> What would be the process to request the room? I would be
>>>>> happy to send some emails, but given the experiences during
>>>>> last ICANN meeting it might be more effective if someone
>>>>> more senior in the ICANN hierarchy would send it. Any
>>>>> takers?
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>>> Niels
>>>>
>>>>
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