[cc-humanrights] Human Rights and ICANN - session description
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Fri Dec 5 17:39:36 UTC 2014
I am reluctant to turn Monday into pure circus. Nothing wrong with
Monday afternoon. We will have substance....
cheers Steph
On 2014-12-05, 9:39, Marilia Maciel wrote:
> Yes, I meant Wednesday. Thanks for the correction Niels. Although
> Olivier mentioned that Monday afternoon is not blocked..
>
> Considering the meeting will always clash with something else, a
> 3-hour session could be strategic to allow people to join us at some
> moment. We could even explicitly divide the session in "part 1" and
> "part 2", so people that could come (although late) do not feel they
> missed too much and still feel encouraged to attend. Of course, this
> is besides the fact that we do have a lot of substantive topics to
> discuss. I understand Rafik´s point, but maybe we should try to push
> for the three hours.
>
> Rafik, do you suggest we wait to book the room, so we coordinate with
> other sessions being scheduled? Isn´t it dangerous in terms of
> securing a room for us? I think it is better to have it scheduled as
> soon as possible. If something substantial changes on the agenda we
> re-evaluate.
>
> Best,
>
> Marília
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi ,
>
> I think we should see the different SO/AC sessions ( we have also
> the CCWG on IG session too!) and find some possible time slot.
>
> 3 hours is long and not necessarily easy to secure room (while we
> could do that in London for a different topic , not sure we can
> reiterate that).
>
> Rafik
>
> 2014-12-05 22:59 GMT+09:00 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>:
>
> Hello all,
>
> it is possible to program for Monday afternoon. They frown
> upon it because that takes people out of the main room but the
> ALAC and other WGs have staged meetings on Monday afternoon
> with little interference. One of the problems is that by
> killing Fridays the week has become shorter and with the
> Thursday circus Thursday is now dead. With Monday risking
> being filled by the circus too we have Tuesday which is
> impossible due to Constituency day. But guess what, I'm now
> told some parts of Constituency day might happen on Wednesday
> morning too. So Wednesday afternoon? Oh now, that's GNSO wrap up.
> <sigh>
>
> Olivier
>
>
> On 05/12/2014 14:41, William Drake wrote:
> > you can't program on Monday, they block it out for official stuff
> they think is more important.
> >
> > I'd ask for Wednesday morning.
> >
> > BD
> >
> >> On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Niels ten Oever
> <niels at article19.org> <mailto:niels at article19.org> wrote:
> >>
>> Hi Rafik,
>>
>> You're right. Tuesday is constituency day, so that is ruled
>> out. Can
>> we do Monday afternoon 13:30 - 16:30 ?
>>
>> I also found in the archives we agreed earlier on a three hour
>> meeting, so let's go for that.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Niels
>>
>>
>> Niels ten Oever
>> Head of Digital
>>
>> Article 19
>> www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
>>
>> PGP fingerprint = 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2
>> 636D 68E9
>>
>> On 12/05/2014 02:17 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>> >>> Hi Niels,
>> >>>
>> >>> Wednesday afternoon has the GNSO council public meeting
>> and we had
>> >>> such conflict last time.
>> >>>
>> >>> Rafik
>> >>>
>> >>> 2014-12-05 22:07 GMT+09:00 Niels ten Oever
>> <niels at article19.org <mailto:niels at article19.org>
>> >>> <mailto:niels at article19.org> <mailto:niels at article19.org>>:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 12/04/2014 06:24 PM, Rafik wrote:
>> >>>> Hi Niels,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Rafik,
>> >>>
>> >>>> I am not senior within ICANN
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, at least more senior than me ;)
>> >>>
>> >>>> but I guess I can help for this.
>> >>>
>> >>> That's excellent. I think we agreed on a session on
>> Wednesday
>> >>> afternoon, as per Bills proposal. I think two hours would
>> suffice.
>> >>> Three hours seems a but like a an overkill (even though I
>> know we
>> >>> could easily fill it).
>> >>>
>> >>> What do you people think?
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>
>> >>> Niels
>> >>>
>> >>>> Rafik
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Le 5 Dec 2014 à 02:20, Niels ten Oever
>> <niels at article19.org <mailto:niels at article19.org>
>> >>>> <mailto:niels at article19.org>
>> <mailto:niels at article19.org>> a écrit :
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>>> It seems there is consensus about the text for the
>> session at
>> >>>> ICANN52, or does anyone have any issues with this text? All
>> >>>> comments are very welcome.
>> >>>
>> >>>> _________
>> >>>
>> >>>> Human right and ICANN - continuing the conversation
>> >>>
>> >>>> There is a growing recognition in parts of the community
>> that
>> >>>> some of ICANN's policies and other actions may have
>> implications
>> >>>> for human rights like freedom of expression and the right to
>> >>>> privacy. While ICANN is not the place to negotiate over such
>> >>>> rights, it would be advisable on political and other
>> grounds to
>> >>>> assess whether our work is fully consistent with
>> internationally
>> >>>> agreed human rights laws and policies, and to identify
>> possible
>> >>>> methods for addressing any incompatibilities.
>> >>>
>> >>>> To date, these issues have been discussed on a case by case
>> >>>> basis. This cross-community workshop will consider
>> options for
>> >>>> starting a process that could address them in a more
>> systemic
>> >>>> manner.
>> >>>
>> >>>> ________
>> >>>
>> >>>> What would be the process to request the room? I would
>> be happy
>> >>>> to send some emails, but given the experiences during
>> last ICANN
>> >>>> meeting it might be more effective if someone more
>> senior in the
>> >>>> ICANN hierarchy would send it. Any takers?
>> >>>
>> >>>> Thanks in advance,
>> >>>
>> >>>> Niels
>> >>>
>> >>>
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