[cc-humanrights] draft agenda public session
Niels ten Oever
niels at article19.org
Tue Sep 29 17:08:02 UTC 2015
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OK, so will be exchanging Olivier with James Bladel. Does this look
better to you all?
Draft Agenda CCWP HR public session v2
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Welcome and Introductions (Niels & Rafik) - 5 minutes
Update on GAC WG on Human Rights and International Law (GAC WG
co-chairs / Lee Hibbard) - 5 minutes
Update on CCWG WP4 on human rights (Leon Sanchez) - 5 minutes
Presentation chart (Marilia) - 10 minutes
Presentation new report on Human Rights Impact assessments and CSR
reporting (Motoko) - 20 minutes
Comments by Leon Sanchez (Chair CCWG WP4)
Comments by Greg Shatan (IPC)
Comments by Patrik Falstrom (SSAC)
Comments by Avri Doria (GNSO)
Comments by James Bladel (RrSG)
Comments by Wolfgang Kleinwaechter (board)
Q&A
Summary (Marilia)
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever
Head of Digital
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On 09/29/2015 06:56 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
> Avri
>
> Exactly
>
> There’s little to be gained by having a bunch of people who all
> agree with each other.
>
> Regards
>
> Michele
>
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> On 29/09/2015 17:53, "cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
> Avri Doria" <cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
> avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The more I think about it the more I like having the panel full
>> of those who have issues with it.
>>
>> Maybe ask James Bladel. He voiced concerns in the CCWG meeting.
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>> On 29-Sep-15 12:48, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>>> Avri
>>>
>>> Thanks, but my concerns are very simple.
>>>
>>> I think you’ll find other contracted parties and people like
>>> Greg would be in a much better position to have a robust
>>> discussion on this
>>>
>>> M
>>>
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>>>
>>> On 29/09/2015 17:28, "Avri Doria" <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I also believe that Wolfgang, like many of the Board is
>>>> nervous about ICANN committing itself to HR in a bylaw.
>>>>
>>>> But it might be good to get someone from the Contracted
>>>> parties on the panel. Like you, Michele.
>>>>
>>>> I can write a blog about how terrible I think it is that
>>>> ICANN cannot even make a simple commitment to respect HR
>>>> within its mission, and can argue from the floor.
>>>>
>>>> avri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29-Sep-15 08:38, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>>>>> Avri
>>>>>
>>>>> As a European registrar I’m very conscious that ICANN is
>>>>> forcing a bunch of things via policy + contract that are,
>>>>> essentially, illegal.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I’d be very wary of how this kind of commitment was
>>>>> made. Simply committing to something and assuming it’ll be
>>>>> sorted out later has not proven to be a particularly sane
>>>>> strategy within the ICANN space..
>>>>>
>>>>> So while I have no concrete objections to HR, I would want
>>>>> clarity on a variety of things before pushing hard for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Michele
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting,
>>>>> Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29/09/2015 13:35, "cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org on
>>>>> behalf of Avri Doria" <cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org on
>>>>> behalf of avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, I did not know you were in the group of people who
>>>>>> did not support a HR bylaw.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We all have questions about how a commitment is
>>>>>> implemented, but i think there is a divison between those
>>>>>> who belive in the committment first and working it out as
>>>>>> we go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And those who want to know exactly what the future holds
>>>>>> before making a committment to HR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I differentiate between
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I support hr, but ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I support hr. I do think we need to discuss how we are
>>>>>> going to implement this"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> avri
>>>>
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