[cc-humanrights] last call - infographic ICANN & Human Rights
Beth Bacon
bbacon at pir.org
Fri Jun 17 13:02:38 UTC 2016
Hello All,
Is there a call today? May apologies, if I miss the email.
Manny thanks,
Beth
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From: cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org [mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:47 AM
To: cc-humanrights at icann.org
Subject: Re: [cc-humanrights] last call - infographic ICANN & Human Rights
Dear all,
Please find attached the last version of the vizualization that we will discuss in the call in a few hours.
I implemented all Kathy's changes, hunted down some typos and made it overall cleaner.
Looking forward to discuss.
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever
Head of Digital
Article 19
www.article19.org
PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4
678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9
On 06/17/2016 12:52 PM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> Very valid point, great suggestion. Will implement :)
>
> PS Also found 9 little points yesterday after printing that are
> integrated in the next version (mostly typos and visual stuff)
>
> Niels ten Oever
> Head of Digital
>
> Article 19
> www.article19.org
>
> PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4
> 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9
>
> On 06/16/2016 10:56 PM, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>> Hi Niels,
>>
>> Tx you for the continuing discussion. But still some confusion. For
>> example, the Rights Protection Mechanism WG is not also reviewing the
>> curative rights protection mechanisms for IGO and INGO or protection
>> of IGO and INGO identifiers in all gTLDs. These are Working Groups of
>> their own. (Way too much work for one group!)
>>
>> Might I suggest, and keeping in mind the suggestion of Marilia, that
>> the first "Rights Protection Mechanism WG" (over DNSSEC) delete "WG"
>> and
>> include:
>>
>> Rights Protection Mechanisms -->
>>
>> - Review of the protection of International Organization Names in all
>> gTLDs
>> -- ***
>> -- ***
>> - PDP to review all RPMs in all gTLDs
>>
>> Best, Kathy
>>
>> On 6/15/2016 3:47 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Based on the previous comments, and new version attached. Looking
>>> forward to your comments.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Niels
>>>
>>> PS Thanks again Giulia for the great job and quick turnaround!
>>>
>>> Niels ten Oever
>>> Head of Digital
>>>
>>> Article 19
>>> www.article19.org
>>>
>>> PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4
>>> 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9
>>>
>>> On 06/14/2016 10:27 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>>>> Thanks Marilia,
>>>>
>>>> This is great, a quick repsonse inline:
>>>>
>>>> On 06/10/2016 04:11 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:
>>>>> Hi Niels and all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations to Niels and the team working on the
>>>>> visualisation. It is a great work and I find the infographic
>>>>> extremely informative. I have just a few observations:
>>>>>
>>>>> - The line that goes from the UDHR to second generation and then
>>>>> to particular instruments is not clear, because some of the
>>>>> instruments, like the ICCPR are part of the first generation of
>>>>> HR, while the ICESCR is indeed document that consolidates second
>>>>> generation rights. We need a different breakout if we want to speak of the generations.
>>>>
>>>> This is a big mistake of mine. Am very happy you caught it.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we could do this differently, because I am not sure how
>>>> useful it is to differentiate between different generations of rights.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - On the human rights principles section, maybe it would be useful
>>>>> to mention the distinction from the responsibility to protect and
>>>>> respect, which is something mentioned in several occasions in our
>>>>> discussions in ICANN.
>>>>
>>>> Based on this and the previous remark I made a quick sketch, let me
>>>> know what you think (attached)
>>>>
>>>>> - Glossary: a) In INGOs there is a space missing and a typo in the
>>>>> word organisation.
>>>> Giulia (cc), can you take this up?
>>>>
>>>>> b) Add " DANE" to the glossary.
>>>> DANE: DNS-based Authentication of Named Entities
>>>>
>>>>> c) Put the glossary in
>>>>> alphabetic order.
>>>> Will do
>>>>
>>>>> - FoE stream: --> new gTLD program --> new gTLD subsequent round (WG).
>>>>> The WG is looking at a wide scope of issues, not only FoE and the
>>>>> title of the WG (new gTLD subsequent round) in column 3 is not
>>>>> explanatory of any particular FoE issue.
>>>> Let's change 'New gTLD programme' (in all instances) into 'New gTLD
>>>> subsequent procedures WG', and then drop the latter from the third column.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - A suggestion came from CoE in the last ICANN meeting that we
>>>>> should rearrange the order in which we list the rights, maybe
>>>>> mirroring the order that they appear in the UDHR. I think it is a valuable suggestion.
>>>>> In any case, I would not start the list with due process, maybe it
>>>>> is good to start with a human right that is more widely "
>>>>> accepted" and understood in the ICANN space.
>>>>
>>>> OK, let's do the order of the second column like this:
>>>>
>>>> Right to Privacy (add: Right to)
>>>> Right to Freedom of Association (add: Right to) Economic, social
>>>> and cultural rights Right to Freedom of expession (add: Right to)
>>>> Right to Security Participation, includion, equality and
>>>> non-discrimination Due process
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - Some of the ICANN policies of processes are actually active WGs.
>>>>> When this is the case, it would be good to indicate that clearly
>>>>> ex: new gTLD subsequent procedures WG, Rights protection
>>>>> mechanisms in all gTLDs WG, etc...
>>>> Agreed, let's add WG to these specific ones:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rights Protection Mechanism WG
>>>> New gTLD subsequent procedures WG
>>>>
>>>>> Reacting to Kathy's suggestion, I believe we should strictly
>>>>> follow the name of the policy or WG we are talking about. So, yes,
>>>>> if they have "Review" in the title, I would retain this word. But
>>>>> I would not add words like "balanced" if they are not in the official title.
>>>>>
>>>> I hope it adresses Kathy's concern if we add WG, so that it is
>>>> clear we use the official terms.
>>>>
>>>> I do share Kathy's concern about the naming of some WGs, but I
>>>> don;t think that is something we should address in this graph.
>>>>
>>>> We can change:
>>>>
>>>> Curative Rights protection for IGOs / INGOs
>>>>
>>>> into:
>>>>
>>>> Review of curative rights protections in IGO/INGOs in gTLDs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Once again, great job and looking forward to the discussion on the
>>>>> visualisation in Helsinki!
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> Niels
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>> Marilia
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kathy Kleiman
>>>>> <kathy at kathykleiman.com <mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Niels and All,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Rights Protection Mechanism listing seem a little more directive
>>>>> than the other phrases -- and could be read to urge specific
>>>>> positions rather than just listing the ICANN proceedings that are
>>>>> looking at the issues. Can we be a bit more neutral in our
>>>>> phrasing? I would recommend:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Review of appropriate protections for IGOs/INGOs in gTLDs
>>>>>
>>>>> - Review of balanced curative rights protections in IGO/INGOs
>>>>> in gTLDs
>>>>>
>>>>> - Review of all rights protection mechanisms currently in
>>>>> gTLDs
>>>>>
>>>>> - Review of balanced rights protection mechanisms for future new
>>>>> gTLD rounds
>>>>>
>>>>> This will avoid misinterpretation... tx you!
>>>>> Best regards, Kathy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/7/2016 9:49 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have integrated your comments and suggestions as well as I could and I
>>>>>> think we have a very nice info-graphic right now that we can present in
>>>>>> Helsinki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I would like to do a last call to see whether you all can live with this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course this will remain a working document, but it would be great if
>>>>>> we can show this in Helsinki as work of the CCWP HR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to hear your comments, questions and/or suggestions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Niels
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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