[cc-humanrights] [cc-humanrights-research] ICANN visualization 2nd draft

Karel Douglas douglaskarel at gmail.com
Thu May 26 12:34:41 UTC 2016


EXCELLENT work Niels,

The diagram does make it a lot easier to understand the link between the
"Human Right" and the corresponding ICANN policy/process.

I will take a more detail look and provide further comments if possible.

regards

Karel

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 7:39 AM, <vidushi at cis-india.org> wrote:

> Hi Niels,
>
> Apologies for this delayed response.
>
> The visualization looks great! I like the level of detail that it allows
> us to get into. :) A few thoughts:
>
> 1. Instead of saying "Human rights in Internet Governance discussions"
> perhaps we could say "Human rights in the ICANN ecosystem" or something
> similar? (not sure if ecosystem if the word we're looking for). This could
> be more specific.
> 2. I like the idea of the Dendogram based on frameworks - however, do you
> think it might be better to have a separate visualization for that? Perhaps
> Aarti and Tatiana can give us an idea of how much detail would be idea for
> the frameworks.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Vidushi
>
> ----- On May 22, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Seth Johnson seth.p.johnson at gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> > (Editing egregious grammar)
> >
> > It's important to incorporate recognition of how international rights
> > work as compared to how we're accustomed to rights working.
> >
> > You can see this in relation to how the EU CoJ overruled the Safe
> > Harbor Agreement, which was not based on rights enacted by treaty.
> > The treaty-based Strasbourg Court, on the other hand, could have ruled
> > the ECHR privacy right had been violated, but the treaty would have
> > remained in place, and would have been simply modified/qualified with
> > exceptions by the same governments whose executive branch actors wrote
> > it in the first place.
> >
> >
> > Seth
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Seth
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Motoko Aizawa <motoko.aizawa at ihrb.org>
> wrote:
> >>> Dear Niels: This is amazing work. I really like the way it turned out.
> My
> >>> only question is whether the human rights indicated are all the
> relevant
> >>> rights in the context of ICANN. They feel right to me but we don't
> know for
> >>> sure unless we carry out a thorough review of all the ICANN policies,
> it
> >>> seems to me. Motoko
> >>>
> >>> Motoko Aizawa | Managing Director USA
> >>> M +1 202 763 1503 |S MotokoSkype11 I W www.ihrb.org I T @IHRB
> >>> Bogotá | Brussels  | Geneva | London | Nairobi | Washington D.C. |
> Yangon
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Zalnieriute, Monika
> >>> <Monika.Zalnieriute at eui.eu> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Niels,
> >>>>
> >>>> Great work! I agree with Niels - dendogram would be great!
> >>>>
> >>>> Some comments from me:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1.  'Human Rights in Internet Governance' might be too broad, as
> ICANN and
> >>>> its policies are just part of the 'Internet Governance Discussions',
> so we
> >>>> might want to narrow it down somewhat to make it explicit this is only
> >>>> ICANN-related. As there are many other areas in IG that affect HR,
> but we
> >>>> dont list them here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Some purely on visuals:
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. In my view, the glossary and all the columns at the top would look
> >>>> better at the bottom of the page. Similarly, the words 'THEME', etc,
> in my
> >>>> view, look better at the top.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. (purely personal taste):  orange boxes with white text look
> somewhat
> >>>> not in consistency with the overall elegance of the style, perhaps
> because
> >>>> of black shadowing or something - I am not sure, but it gives me
> somewhat
> >>>> different look than the rest. And that rest looks very good:)
> >>>>
> >>>> Best wishes,
> >>>>
> >>>> Monika
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----
> >>>>
> >>>> Dr. Monika Zalnieriute
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Melbourne Law School | The University of Melbourne I
> law.unimelb.edu.au I
> >>>> Center for Media, Data and Society I Central European University I
> >>>> cmds.ceu.edu I
> >>>> Executive Committee I Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I
> icann.org
> >>>> I
> >>>> Z E P H I R O : Progressive Platform for Human Rights I
> >>>> zephiroplatform.org I
> >>>> Centre for Internet & Human Rights I European University Viadrina I
> >>>> cihr.eu I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________________
> >>>> From: cc-humanrights-research-bounces at icann.org
> >>>> <cc-humanrights-research-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Niels ten
> Oever
> >>>> <niels at article19.org>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:07 AM
> >>>> To: Human Rights; cc-humanrights-research at icann.org
> >>>> Cc: Giulia De Amicis
> >>>> Subject: [cc-humanrights-research] ICANN visualization 2nd draft
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear colleagues,
> >>>>
> >>>> Attached a second draft visualization made by the designer, as always,
> >>>> looking forward to your comments!
> >>>>
> >>>> What text is missing? What more would you like to be in here?
> >>>>
> >>>> I was thinking (maybe too much, maybe not), we could maybe also do a
> >>>> dendogram based on rights. With the UDHR at the bottom, the ICCPR and
> >>>> the ICESCR coming from that and then all the smaller treaties
> following
> >>>> that, and finally of course the Ruggie Principles and the Global
> >>>> compact. This might build on the work done by Tatiana and Aarti on
> >>>> relevant frameworks? It defintely needs some research and lawyer
> touch :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Curious to hear what you all think!
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Niels
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