[Acct-Legal] Comparison of CCWG CMSM Proposal and ICANN Board MEM Proposal

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Wed Sep 23 04:24:35 UTC 2015


That would be Humble, but undeserved.  I think a coal miners helmet with
lamp, which would signify the hard work, deep digging, hours of darkness
and general abject working conditions of your Rapporteur-ship.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz>
wrote:

> the dunce cap? ;-)
>
>
> On 23 September 2015 at 16:19, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Be my guest, O Humble Rapporteur!
>>
>> I hope you will be wearing the hat in LA....
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm happy to if you like, with my humble rapporteur hat on?
>>> J
>>>
>>> On 23 September 2015 at 16:16, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Given how little time we have before the F2F, I would suggest that we
>>>> release this to the Full List now.  I'm not sure any of the Chairs are
>>>> reading this now.  We may need to take a battlefield decision to forward
>>>> this to the full list.  I'm happy to be the forwarder.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone reading now (04:15 UTC, so Europe not quite up yet) disagree, or
>>>> feel that someone else should forward to the Full List?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Rosemary E. Fei <rfei at adlercolvin.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In case that question was directed at counsel, I (and I think I can
>>>>> also speak for Holly on this) defer to the co-chairs and staff on the
>>>>> protocols for release to the full CCWG email list and posting; from the
>>>>> perspective of counsel, we have delivered our response to the certified
>>>>> request, and you may do whatever is appropriate with it now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rosemary E. Fei
>>>>> Adler & Colvin
>>>>> 235 Montgomery Street, Suite 1220
>>>>> San Francisco, CA 94104
>>>>> 415/421-7555 (phone)
>>>>> 415/421-0712 (fax)
>>>>> rfei at adlercolvin.com
>>>>> www.adlercolvin.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> print this email.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Jordan Carter [mailto:jordan at internetnz.net.nz]
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:01 PM
>>>>> *To:* Rosemary E. Fei
>>>>> *Cc:* egmorris1 at toast.net; Holly Gregory; thomas at rickert.net;
>>>>> mathieu.weill at afnic.fr; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía;
>>>>> ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org; Alice Jansen; Grace Abuhamad; Sidley
>>>>> ICANN CCWG; ICANN-Adler
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Acct-Legal] Comparison of CCWG CMSM Proposal and
>>>>> ICANN Board MEM Proposal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> can I add my thanks and congratulations - it is a good, inspiring
>>>>> actually, piece of work. It should help the LAX meeting go well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Question -- can this be circulated to the full CCWG? From what I can
>>>>> see of the email trail, it has not yet hit the main list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> best
>>>>>
>>>>> Jordan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 September 2015 at 15:56, Rosemary E. Fei <rfei at adlercolvin.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the compliment, and for hiring us.  We are privileged to
>>>>> be challenged by such interesting, important, and unique work with all of
>>>>> you in the CCWG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rosemary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Edward Morris [mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net]
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:30 PM
>>>>> *To:* Holly Gregory; thomas at rickert.net; mathieu.weill at afnic.fr; León
>>>>> Felipe Sánchez Ambía; ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org; Alice Jansen;
>>>>> Grace Abuhamad
>>>>> *Cc:* Sidley ICANN CCWG; ICANN-Adler
>>>>> *Subject:* re: [Acct-Legal] Comparison of CCWG CMSM Proposal and
>>>>> ICANN Board MEM Proposal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Holly and Rosemary,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Many months ago I was part of the small Legal Sub-team that chose to
>>>>> retain both your firms to advise us here on the CCWG. As I've been
>>>>> reading the documents you've just sent us contrasting the Board and CCWG
>>>>> 2nd draft proposals  my initial reaction has been  "damn, we made the right
>>>>> decision".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks you for your extraordinary, detailed, comprehensive and
>>>>> valuable  work. It's of great help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed Morris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From*: "Gregory, Holly" <holly.gregory at sidley.com>
>>>>> *Sent*: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 3:06 AM
>>>>> *To*: "thomas at rickert.net" <thomas at rickert.net>, "
>>>>> mathieu.weill at afnic.fr" <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>, "León Felipe
>>>>> Sánchez Ambía" <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>, "
>>>>> ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org" <ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org>,
>>>>> "Alice Jansen" <alice.jansen at icann.org>, "Grace Abuhamad" <
>>>>> grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>>>>> *Cc*: "Sidley ICANN CCWG" <sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com>, "ICANN-Adler"
>>>>> <ICANN at adlercolvin.com>
>>>>> *Subject*: [Acct-Legal] Comparison of CCWG CMSM Proposal and ICANN
>>>>> Board MEM Proposal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Co-Chairs, Members and Participants of CCWG,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Attached please find three documents to assist in preparation for our
>>>>> meeting in L.A.:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ·         A memo from Sidley and Adler with our high level
>>>>> observations regarding comparison between the Board Proposal and the CCWG
>>>>> Proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> ·         A Summary Comparison of Key Characteristics of CMSM Model
>>>>> and Board Proposal – this or something along these lines will be expanded
>>>>> out in the next several days to include the Sole Designator model as
>>>>> requested on today’s call
>>>>>
>>>>> ·         Comparison of CCWG 2nd Draft Proposal (Community Mechanism
>>>>> as Sole Member) and ICANN Board Proposal (Comparison)
>>>>>
>>>>> We look forward to seeing you in L.A.,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Holly and Rosemary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *HOLLY* *J. GREGORY*
>>>>> Partner and Co-Chair
>>>>> Global Corporate Governance & Executive Compensation Practice
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sidley Austin LLP*
>>>>> +1 212 839 5853
>>>>> holly.gregory at sidley.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Jordan Carter
>>>>>
>>>>> Chief Executive
>>>>> *InternetNZ*
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Jordan Carter
>>>
>>> Chief Executive
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jordan Carter
>
> Chief Executive
> *InternetNZ*
>
> +64-4-495-2118 (office) | +64-21-442-649 (mob)
> Email: jordan at internetnz.net.nz
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>
> *A better world through a better Internet *
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