[Acct-Legal] Comparison of CCWG CMSM Proposal and ICANN Board MEM Proposal

Wed Sep 23 04:32:06 UTC 2015

Heh, thanks Greg. Hard to stay positive in this world at times so I doubly
appreciate the kind words.

Cheers
Jordan

On Wednesday, 23 September 2015, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
wrote:

> That would be Humble, but undeserved.  I think a coal miners helmet with
> lamp, which would signify the hard work, deep digging, hours of darkness
> and general abject working conditions of your Rapporteur-ship.
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jordan at internetnz.net.nz');>> wrote:
>
>> the dunce cap? ;-)
>>
>>
>> On 23 September 2015 at 16:19, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Be my guest, O Humble Rapporteur!
>>>
>>> I hope you will be wearing the hat in LA....
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Jordan Carter <
>>> jordan at internetnz.net.nz
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jordan at internetnz.net.nz');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm happy to if you like, with my humble rapporteur hat on?
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> On 23 September 2015 at 16:16, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Given how little time we have before the F2F, I would suggest that we
>>>>> release this to the Full List now.  I'm not sure any of the Chairs are
>>>>> reading this now.  We may need to take a battlefield decision to forward
>>>>> this to the full list.  I'm happy to be the forwarder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone reading now (04:15 UTC, so Europe not quite up yet) disagree,
>>>>> or feel that someone else should forward to the Full List?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Rosemary E. Fei <
>>>>> rfei at adlercolvin.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rfei at adlercolvin.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In case that question was directed at counsel, I (and I think I can
>>>>>> also speak for Holly on this) defer to the co-chairs and staff on the
>>>>>> protocols for release to the full CCWG email list and posting; from the
>>>>>> perspective of counsel, we have delivered our response to the certified
>>>>>> request, and you may do whatever is appropriate with it now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosemary E. Fei
>>>>>> Adler & Colvin
>>>>>> 235 Montgomery Street, Suite 1220
>>>>>> San Francisco, CA 94104
>>>>>> 415/421-7555 (phone)
>>>>>> 415/421-0712 (fax)
>>>>>> rfei at adlercolvin.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rfei at adlercolvin.com');>
>>>>>> www.adlercolvin.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Jordan Carter [mailto:jordan at internetnz.net.nz
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jordan at internetnz.net.nz');>]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:01 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Rosemary E. Fei
>>>>>> *Cc:* egmorris1 at toast.net
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','egmorris1 at toast.net');>; Holly
>>>>>> Gregory; thomas at rickert.net
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thomas at rickert.net');>;
>>>>>> mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mathieu.weill at afnic.fr');>; León
>>>>>> Felipe Sánchez Ambía; ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org');>;
>>>>>> Alice Jansen; Grace Abuhamad; Sidley ICANN CCWG; ICANN-Adler
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Acct-Legal] Comparison of CCWG CMSM Proposal and
>>>>>> ICANN Board MEM Proposal
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> can I add my thanks and congratulations - it is a good, inspiring
>>>>>> actually, piece of work. It should help the LAX meeting go well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question -- can this be circulated to the full CCWG? From what I can
>>>>>> see of the email trail, it has not yet hit the main list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jordan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 September 2015 at 15:56, Rosemary E. Fei <rfei at adlercolvin.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rfei at adlercolvin.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the compliment, and for hiring us.  We are privileged
>>>>>> to be challenged by such interesting, important, and unique work with all
>>>>>> of you in the CCWG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosemary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Edward Morris [mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','egmorris1 at toast.net');>]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:30 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Holly Gregory; thomas at rickert.net
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thomas at rickert.net');>;
>>>>>> mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mathieu.weill at afnic.fr');>; León
>>>>>> Felipe Sánchez Ambía; ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org');>;
>>>>>> Alice Jansen; Grace Abuhamad
>>>>>> *Cc:* Sidley ICANN CCWG; ICANN-Adler
>>>>>> *Subject:* re: [Acct-Legal] Comparison of CCWG CMSM Proposal and
>>>>>> ICANN Board MEM Proposal
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Holly and Rosemary,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many months ago I was part of the small Legal Sub-team that chose to
>>>>>> retain both your firms to advise us here on the CCWG. As I've been
>>>>>> reading the documents you've just sent us contrasting the Board and CCWG
>>>>>> 2nd draft proposals  my initial reaction has been  "damn, we made the right
>>>>>> decision".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks you for your extraordinary, detailed, comprehensive and
>>>>>> valuable  work. It's of great help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed Morris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From*: "Gregory, Holly" <holly.gregory at sidley.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','holly.gregory at sidley.com');>>
>>>>>> *Sent*: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 3:06 AM
>>>>>> *To*: "thomas at rickert.net
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thomas at rickert.net');>" <
>>>>>> thomas at rickert.net
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thomas at rickert.net');>>, "
>>>>>> mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mathieu.weill at afnic.fr');>" <
>>>>>> mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mathieu.weill at afnic.fr');>>, "León
>>>>>> Felipe Sánchez Ambía" <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','leonfelipe at sanchez.mx');>>, "
>>>>>> ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org');>" <
>>>>>> ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org');>>,
>>>>>> "Alice Jansen" <alice.jansen at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','alice.jansen at icann.org');>>, "Grace
>>>>>> Abuhamad" <grace.abuhamad at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grace.abuhamad at icann.org');>>
>>>>>> *Cc*: "Sidley ICANN CCWG" <sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com');>>,
>>>>>> "ICANN-Adler" <ICANN at adlercolvin.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ICANN at adlercolvin.com');>>
>>>>>> *Subject*: [Acct-Legal] Comparison of CCWG CMSM Proposal and ICANN
>>>>>> Board MEM Proposal
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Co-Chairs, Members and Participants of CCWG,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Attached please find three documents to assist in preparation for our
>>>>>> meeting in L.A.:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ·         A memo from Sidley and Adler with our high level
>>>>>> observations regarding comparison between the Board Proposal and the CCWG
>>>>>> Proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ·         A Summary Comparison of Key Characteristics of CMSM Model
>>>>>> and Board Proposal – this or something along these lines will be expanded
>>>>>> out in the next several days to include the Sole Designator model as
>>>>>> requested on today’s call
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ·         Comparison of CCWG 2nd Draft Proposal (Community Mechanism
>>>>>> as Sole Member) and ICANN Board Proposal (Comparison)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We look forward to seeing you in L.A.,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Holly and Rosemary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *HOLLY* *J. GREGORY*
>>>>>> Partner and Co-Chair
>>>>>> Global Corporate Governance & Executive Compensation Practice
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sidley Austin LLP*
>>>>>> +1 212 839 5853
>>>>>> holly.gregory at sidley.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','holly.gregory at sidley.com');>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jordan Carter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chief Executive
>>>>>> *InternetNZ*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Chief Executive
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>>>>
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>>>
>>
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>> Jordan Carter
>>
>> Chief Executive
>> *InternetNZ*
>>
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>> *A better world through a better Internet *
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Jordan Carter
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