[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER Re: Please participate - survey re. whether ICANN Org should be able to apply for funds
Carolina Caeiro
carolina at lacnic.net
Wed Aug 23 20:24:19 UTC 2017
Dear all,
Are there any problems with re-opening the survey for a couple extra
hours, say 10:00PM UTC? I was awaiting for some feedback and missed the
deadline for some 20 minutes. I think this should still give us
sufficient time for review ahead of tomorrow's meeting and some other
group members might be in a similar situation?
Many thanks,
Carolina
El 23/8/17 a las 15:14, Marika Konings escribió:
>
> Please note that this poll has now been closed. You are encouraged to
> review the results ahead of tomorrow’s meeting here:
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-K3MK9MY5/.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marika
>
> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Marika
> Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> *Date: *Monday, August 21, 2017 at 12:03
> *To: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER Re: Please participate -
> survey re. whether ICANN Org should be able to apply for funds
>
> Reminder – please participate in the poll if you have not done so yet.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marika
>
> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Marika
> Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> *Date: *Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 06:12
> *To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info>, 'Seun Ojedeji'
> <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>, "Xavier J. Calvez" <xavier.calvez at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Please participate - survey re.
> whether ICANN Org should be able to apply for funds
>
> Jonathan, thank you for your suggestion and others for chiming in. In
> consultation with the leadership team, staff has put together a short
> survey to obtain CCWG input on the questions you have outlined below
> which will hopefully help inform the CCWG deliberations on this topic.
> To participate in the survey, please go to
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/HRRV93W[surveymonkey.com]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_r_HRRV93W&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=_T1cLFkwn8kLi5jr9uCCI3cTUNSqX0Cv-wIVN_Xqpqc&s=YWSOX8e-LtaTRwYSpnCY2VJtJ6ujbtxMW5EzSdyanhQ&e=>.
>
>
> You are requested to provide your input by Wednesday 23 August at
> 18.00 UTC at the latest.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marika
>
> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Jonathan
> Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info>
> *Organization: *Afilias
> *Reply-To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info>
> *Date: *Friday, August 11, 2017 at 03:11
> *To: *'Seun Ojedeji' <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>, "Xavier J. Calvez"
> <xavier.calvez at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes & action items from
> today's CCWG-AP meeting
>
> All,
>
> A couple of thoughts on this topic.
>
> On the subject of whether or not ICANN should have a 12 month
> operating expense reserve in place.
>
> Agreed that it seems to be common practice in the not for profit sector.
>
> Whether or not it should be the case for ICANN is an interesting
> question, but agreed, not one for this CWG.
>
> In any event, Xavier has clarified that the current policy is that the
> level of operating reserve should be 12 months.
>
> My understanding of the question for this group is not whether or not
> we would sanction the (auction fund) money being used to top up the
> reserves.
>
> But rather, whether or not we would like to see rules in place that
> sanction ICANN (the organisation) applying for auction funds.
>
> In evaluating that question of ICANN the organisation as a prospective
> applicant, a use or test case for that consideration is ICANN applying
> (under the same rules as anyone else) for auction funds to top up the
> ICANN reserve funds.
>
> My personal view is that ICANN should be demonstrating a commitment to
> fulfilling its current policy (to have in place a 12 month reserve) by
> budgeting an operating surplus to build that reserve.
>
> In addition (independently of this CWG), ICANN should review its
> current policy on reserve funds.
>
> If these two criteria were met, it would make me personaly much more
> sympathetic to potentially topping up reserve funds (to some extent)
> with auction funds.
>
> At the risk of being repetitive, it seems to me that the question for
> this CWG remains:
>
> * Whether or not ICANN the Organisation should be permitted to apply
> for funds?
> and
> * If so, what constraints should be place on this (use of funds,
> quantum etc)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan
>
> *From:*Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 7:18 AM
> *To:* Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez at icann.org>
> *Cc:* ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes & action items from
> today's CCWG-AP meeting
>
> Hello,
>
> Xavier is right about reserve that covers operational expenses for
> minimum is say 12 month being normal practice. Some even do it for
> more; some RIRs have way above 1 year already while others are working
> towards same. However ofcourse none can match the fat figures of ICANN
> budget. ;-)
>
> However I don't think auction proceeds in this context can be referred
> to as surplus that can get ploughed back to achieve reserve target set
> by ICANN management NOR do I think it is a target/goal that this group
> should try to achieve.
>
> I for will suggest that we should consider mechanisms that allow some
> community projects that ICANN normally fund in their budget to be
> eligible, which if approved (based on the process) may then result to
> more surpluses to ICANN and they(Board) can decide to put that to reserve.
>
> Regards
>
> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On Aug 10, 2017 10:26 PM, "Xavier J. Calvez" <xavier.calvez at icann.org
> <mailto:xavier.calvez at icann.org>> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I apologize if I did not make the following clear: ICANN’s current
> policy is to have in place a reserve fund equivalent to at minimum
> 12 months of operating expenses. Refer to ICANN’s Investment
> Policy, see at
> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/investment-policy-2014-07-30-en[icann.org]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_investment-2Dpolicy-2D2014-2D07-2D30-2Den&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=Dww8xHmK4zEHqHK0lHK7IdorPuvHkXKk1luyeB5pBxQ&s=rcBRrG4RZelJUExS-glQJgvDHB75hZlkZOX7O2qDG_A&e=>,
> see the paragraph “Size of Funds”, copied below).
>
> “The Reserve Fund shall contain any amounts not contained in the
> Operating Fund. Any surplus funds will be used to build up the
> Reserve Fund to a balance sufficient to cover an emergency
> requirement. The Reserve Fund is expected to reach and maintain a
> level of funds to maintain a minimum of 12 months of expected
> expenditures.“
>
> I indicated that this level of a reserve fund is the commonly used
> in non-profit organizations.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Xavier
>
> Xavier Calvez
>
> ICANN – SVP & CFO
>
> 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
>
> Los Angeles, CA 90094
>
> Phone: 310-301-5838
>
> Mobile: 805-312-0052
>
> Fax: 310-957-2348
>
> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Alan
> Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>>
> *Date: *Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 1:41 PM
> *To: *Dietmar Stefitz <djs at bemarnet.es <mailto:djs at bemarnet.es>>,
> Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com
> <mailto:mkaranicolas at gmail.com>>, Kavouss Arasteh
> <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>>
> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> <mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>"
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> <mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes & action items from
> today's CCWG-AP meeting
>
> To be clear, I don't think anyone on the call suggested we build
> up the reserve to a 12 or 24 month level of current budget. Xavier
> said that 1 year was a typical norm for non-profits, but in my
> opinion, there is no need for that, as in the case of emergency,
> costs could be ramped down quickly.
>
> I vaguely recall that the level that we were targeting (before the
> drain from the CCWG-Acct expenses) was something like $80m. So
> even if we contributed enough to get back to that level, it would
> be perhaps $40m.
>
> But the issue in my mind is not how much, but if.
>
> Alan
>
> At 10/08/2017 03:28 PM, Dietmar Stefitz wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Erika and all,
>
> I have been very astonished to hear the proposal to use the
> Auction Money in filling up the reserve account of ICANN.
> Filling up for 12 month reserve or 24 month reserve, if we
> have to take 24 month, there will not be much left to disburse
> to other projects.
>
> I thought that the call from Xavier has been to explain
> specially the Investment of the fund at this moment, for which
> I can only congratulate.
> A 1% return on a super save investment is not bad, and it
> should be made like this in the future.
>
> I would absolutely be against a filling up of the reserve fund
> from the auction proceeds, at least as a decision from this group.
> Or did I misunderstand something?
>
> Dietmar Stefitz
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thursday, August 10, 2017, 8:05:56 PM, you wrote:
>
> *MK> Hi Kavouss,
>
> MK> Am I missing something - or are you suggesting that the
> CCWG should
> MK> only determine whether or not money be fed into ICANN's
> reserve
> MK> account, without also indicating what proportion should be
> used to
> MK> that effect?
>
> MK> If so - I don't see how the CCWG could consider anything
> beyond that
> MK> simple yes/no question, as we'd have no indication how
> much money we
> MK> would have leftover to work with, once the reserve is
> replenished.
> MK> Decisions about allocation priorities can't really be made
> unless we
> MK> also look at how the pie should be portioned out, right?
>
> MK> Michael Karanicolas
>
> MK> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Kavouss Arasteh
> MK> <*kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
> <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>*> wrote:
>
>
> >> Dear Erika, Dear All,
>
> >> Today during the last 15 mints of the call I tried to draw
> your attention to
> >> allow me to intervene on the views expressed by Alan
> reading the Reserve
> >> account.
>
> >> If I have well understood his statement he wanted that CCWG
> discuss the
> >> level of ICANN reserve account which was announced by
> Xavier to be
> >> equivalent to one year budget as objective. As Xavier
> mentioned this level
> >> has not been reached.
>
> >> Alan’s view that CCWG discuss the level of ICANN reserve
> account is outside**
> >> the mandate of CCWG. We may just decide whether or not that
> account be fed**
> >> by using Auction money but decision on the appropriate
> level of the reserve
> >> account is totally outside or mandate as it is a decision
> to be made by the
> >> Board and not by this group
>
> >> Regards
>
> >> Kavouss
>
>
> >> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Joke Braeken
> <*joke.braeken at icann.org <mailto:joke.braeken at icann.org> *>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Dear All,
>
>
>
> >>> Please find below the notes and action items from
> today’s CCWG-AP meeting.**
>
>
>
> >>> Best regards,**
>
>
>
> >>> Joke Braeken**
>
>
>
> >>> Notes CCWG – AP Meeting 10 August 2017:**
>
>
>
> >>> These high-level notes are designed to help the CCWG
> navigate through the**
> >>> content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for
> the transcript
> >>> and/or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat are
> provided separately and
> >>> are posted on the wiki at:
> *https://community.icann.org/x/DLHDAw[community.icann.org]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_DLHDAw&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=IWWGaKyGUGcKQNGe7LtArAou7HP6fPR5aWjbPBUFZ3k&m=HKuU-9DAESnqcGMIdaNf5MeIgsXuBdt1W6-AYHyIJIc&s=6OyX-H7GEmBCRJWXNDGE46VvO6oDVoRB82Z2AeomXAg&e=>*.
>
>
>
> >>> Roll Call
>
>
>
> >>> Please state your name for transcription purposes and keep
> microphones on
> >>> mute when not speaking.
> >>> Attendance will be taken from the AdobeConnect room.
>
>
>
> >>> Welcome – DOI**
>
>
>
> >>> Overview from Xavier Calvez on investment management
>
>
>
> >>> The intention of this presentation is
>
> >>> to allow the group to think on the issue of investment,
> >>> to understand ICANN's practice, and to answer any
> questions that might be
> >>> raised.
>
> >>> It helps to inform the discussion on the ROI of the fund;
> It includes an
> >>> overview of how the auction proceeds are currently
> managed, which might lead
> >>> to how they might be managed in the future.
>
>
>
> >>> Important to note:
>
> >>> only conservative investment policies are being used
> >>> the investment strategy will be designed in support of the
> objectives
>
>
>
> >>> An overview of some illustrative investment scenarios was
> provided,
> >>> followed by Q&A.
>
>
>
> >>> Parameters that need to be considered:
>
> >>> amount of money
> >>> horizon
> >>> level of risk (which is not correlated to the horizon)
>
>
>
> >>> Financial information is regularly provided during the
> quarterly
> >>> stakeholder calls.
>
> >>> (amount from latest update - Q3 data of FY17.
> *>>> https://www.icann.org/quarterlyreports[icann.org]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_quarterlyreports&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=IWWGaKyGUGcKQNGe7LtArAou7HP6fPR5aWjbPBUFZ3k&m=HKuU-9DAESnqcGMIdaNf5MeIgsXuBdt1W6-AYHyIJIc&s=baFsmaqAdvnSkJG4eoXhzZNn5-StHSA9z08s4kUvK4E&e=>*)
>
> >>> Reserve Fund: 64 million
> >>> New gTLD unspent application fees: 128 million
> >>> Auction proceeds: 233 million
> >>> Annual budget of ICANN. FY18 budget expenses 142 million USD.
>
>
>
> >>> Regarding replenishing the reserve fund: appropriate
> procedures need to be
> >>> taken, appropriate approvals and decisions need to be in
> place for it to be
> >>> legal.
>
> >>> This is however a moral question as well. The charter does
> include this
> >>> question: “To what extent (and, if so, how) could ICANN,
> the Organization or**
> >>> a constituent part thereof, be the beneficiary of some of
> the auction funds†**
>
> >>> The group needs to discuss this at a later stage.**
>
>
>
> >>> Next meeting**
>
>
>
> >>> next CCWG-AP meeting is scheduled for Thursday 24 August
> at 14.00 UTC**
>
>
>
> >>> = = = =
>
>
>
> >>> Action item #1:
>
> >>> CCWG to review the slides presented by Xavier (published on
> *>>>
> https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/2017-08-10+CCWG+New+gTLD+Auction+Proceeds+call[community.icann.org]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_CWGONGAP_2017-2D08-2D10-2BCCWG-2BNew-2BgTLD-2BAuction-2BProceeds-2Bcall&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=IWWGaKyGUGcKQNGe7LtArAou7HP6fPR5aWjbPBUFZ3k&m=HKuU-9DAESnqcGMIdaNf5MeIgsXuBdt1W6-AYHyIJIc&s=FQiYsQAxL7CV_3RJCSjIYJtSMgDGoFBN-QeXmJoUPBU&e=>
> *)
> >>> and to share any further questions for Xavier on the
> group’s mailing list.**
>
>
>
> >>> Action item #2:**
>
> >>> Per the discussion during the CCWG-AP meeting on 27 July
> 2017, the**
> >>> attached mind map was developed, which aims to regroup the
> objectives based
> >>> on the survey results as well as the subsequent
> discussions. The CCWG is
> >>> encouraged to continue to provide feedback on the proposed
> regrouping of
> >>> objectives/priorities, as well as the clustering of
> examples ahead of the
> >>> next meeting, scheduled for 24 August at 14 UTC.
>
>
>
> >>> Action item #3:
>
> >>> CCWG to review responses to charter question #4 and to
> continue the
> >>> discussion on the mailing list.
>
> >>> (see
> *https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-6GNDQHJ6/[surveymonkey.com]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_results_SM-2D6GNDQHJ6_&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=IWWGaKyGUGcKQNGe7LtArAou7HP6fPR5aWjbPBUFZ3k&m=HKuU-9DAESnqcGMIdaNf5MeIgsXuBdt1W6-AYHyIJIc&s=yulKeXnAn5CN2_dNRAj8nx_5IeuwBT4F1Heh3dtZJWI&e=>*)
>
>
>
> >>> = = = =
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> Joke Braeken
>
> >>> ccNSO Policy Advisor
>
> *>>> joke.braeken at icann.org <mailto:joke.braeken at icann.org>
>
>
>
> *>>> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter:
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>
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