[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER Re: Please participate - survey re. whether ICANN Org should be able to apply for funds

Erika Mann erika at erikamann.com
Thu Aug 24 13:19:38 UTC 2017


Yes, keep it open Marika!

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:43 PM, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
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> Not having seen any immediate objections, I’ve gone ahead and re-opened
> the survey. Please submit your responses by 22.00 UTC at the latest.
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> Thanks,
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> Marika
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> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Carolina
> Caeiro <carolina at lacnic.net>
> *Date: *Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 14:24
> *To: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER Re: Please participate -
> survey re. whether ICANN Org should be able to apply for funds
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> Dear all,
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> Are there any problems with re-opening the survey for a couple extra
> hours, say 10:00PM UTC? I was awaiting for some feedback and missed the
> deadline for some 20 minutes. I think this should still give us sufficient
> time for review ahead of tomorrow's meeting and some other group members
> might be in a similar situation?
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> Many thanks,
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> Carolina
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> El 23/8/17 a las 15:14, Marika Konings escribió:
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> Please note that this poll has now been closed. You are encouraged to
> review the results ahead of tomorrow’s meeting here:
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-K3MK9MY5/[surveymonkey.com]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_results_SM-2DK3MK9MY5_&d=DwMDaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=o7RmJCwXVgbzxpnjhadXFvFU9MXfWgIEKEx7RKKQt7c&s=O2k7QhFCI1R3KLRPluuMW-wAcIJn9B1MM4446-xw6ZE&e=>.
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> Best regards,
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> Marika
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> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org>
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings
> <marika.konings at icann.org> <marika.konings at icann.org>
> *Date: *Monday, August 21, 2017 at 12:03
> *To: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER Re: Please participate -
> survey re. whether ICANN Org should be able to apply for funds
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> Reminder – please participate in the poll if you have not done so yet.
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> Best regards,
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> Marika
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> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org>
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings
> <marika.konings at icann.org> <marika.konings at icann.org>
> *Date: *Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 06:12
> *To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info> <jrobinson at afilias.info>,
> 'Seun Ojedeji' <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>, "Xavier
> J. Calvez" <xavier.calvez at icann.org> <xavier.calvez at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Please participate - survey re. whether
> ICANN Org should be able to apply for funds
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> Jonathan, thank you for your suggestion and others for chiming in. In
> consultation with the leadership team, staff has put together a short
> survey to obtain CCWG input on the questions you have outlined below which
> will hopefully help inform the CCWG deliberations on this topic. To
> participate in the survey, please go to https://www.surveymonkey.com/
> r/HRRV93W[surveymonkey.com]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_r_HRRV93W&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=_T1cLFkwn8kLi5jr9uCCI3cTUNSqX0Cv-wIVN_Xqpqc&s=YWSOX8e-LtaTRwYSpnCY2VJtJ6ujbtxMW5EzSdyanhQ&e=>.
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> You are requested to provide your input by Wednesday 23 August at 18.00
> UTC at the latest.
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> Thanks,
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> Marika
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> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org>
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson
> <jrobinson at afilias.info> <jrobinson at afilias.info>
> *Organization: *Afilias
> *Reply-To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info>
> <jrobinson at afilias.info>
> *Date: *Friday, August 11, 2017 at 03:11
> *To: *'Seun Ojedeji' <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>,
> "Xavier J. Calvez" <xavier.calvez at icann.org> <xavier.calvez at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes & action items from today's
> CCWG-AP meeting
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> All,
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> A couple of thoughts on this topic.
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> On the subject of whether or not ICANN should have a 12 month operating
> expense reserve in place.
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> Agreed that it seems to be common practice in the not for profit sector.
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> Whether or not it should be the case for ICANN is an interesting question,
> but agreed, not one for this CWG.
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> In any event, Xavier has clarified that the current policy is that the
> level of operating reserve should be 12 months.
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> My understanding of the question for this group is not whether or not we
> would sanction the (auction fund) money being used to top up the reserves.
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> But rather, whether or not we would like to see rules in place that
> sanction ICANN (the organisation) applying for auction funds.
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> In evaluating that question of ICANN the organisation as a prospective
> applicant, a use or test case for that consideration is ICANN applying
> (under the same rules as anyone else) for auction funds to top up the ICANN
> reserve funds.
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> My personal view is that ICANN should be demonstrating a commitment to
> fulfilling its current policy (to have in place a 12 month reserve) by
> budgeting an operating surplus to build that reserve.
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> In addition (independently of this CWG), ICANN should review its current
> policy on reserve funds.
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> If these two criteria were met, it would make me personaly much more
> sympathetic to potentially topping up reserve funds (to some extent) with
> auction funds.
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> At the risk of being repetitive, it seems to me that the question for this
> CWG remains:
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>    - Whether or not ICANN the Organisation should be permitted to apply
>    for funds?
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>    - If so, what constraints should be place on this (use of funds,
>    quantum etc)?
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> Thanks,
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> Jonathan
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> *From:* Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
> <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 7:18 AM
> *To:* Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez at icann.org> <xavier.calvez at icann.org>
> *Cc:* ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes & action items from today's
> CCWG-AP meeting
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> Hello,
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> Xavier is right about reserve that covers operational expenses for minimum
> is say 12 month being normal practice. Some even do it for more; some RIRs
> have way above 1 year already while others are working towards same.
> However ofcourse none can match the fat figures of ICANN budget. ;-)
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> However I don't think auction proceeds in this context can be referred to
> as surplus that can get ploughed back to achieve reserve target set by
> ICANN management NOR do I think it is a target/goal that this group should
> try to achieve.
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> I for will suggest that we should consider mechanisms that allow some
> community projects that ICANN normally fund in their budget to be eligible,
> which if approved (based on the process) may then result to more surpluses
> to ICANN and they(Board) can decide to put that to reserve.
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> Regards
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> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
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> On Aug 10, 2017 10:26 PM, "Xavier J. Calvez" <xavier.calvez at icann.org>
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> All,
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> I apologize if I did not make the following clear: ICANN’s current policy
> is to have in place a reserve fund equivalent to at minimum 12 months of
> operating expenses. Refer to ICANN’s Investment Policy, see at
> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/investment-
> policy-2014-07-30-en[icann.org]
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> “The Reserve Fund shall contain any amounts not contained in the Operating
> Fund. Any surplus funds will be used to build up the Reserve Fund to a
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> I indicated that this level of a reserve fund is the commonly used in
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> Best,
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> Xavier
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> Xavier Calvez
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> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Alan
> Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
> *Date: *Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 1:41 PM
> *To: *Dietmar Stefitz <djs at bemarnet.es>, Michael Karanicolas <
> mkaranicolas at gmail.com>, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes & action items from today's
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> To be clear, I don't think anyone on the call suggested we build up the
> reserve to a 12 or 24 month level of current budget. Xavier said that 1
> year was a typical norm for non-profits, but in my opinion, there is no
> need for that, as in the case of emergency, costs could be ramped down
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> I vaguely recall that the level that we were targeting (before the drain
> from the CCWG-Acct expenses) was something like $80m. So even if we
> contributed enough to get back to that level, it would be perhaps $40m.
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> Alan
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> At 10/08/2017 03:28 PM, Dietmar Stefitz wrote:
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> Hi Erika and all,
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> I have been very astonished to hear the proposal to use the Auction Money
> in filling up the reserve account of ICANN.
> Filling up for 12 month reserve or 24 month reserve, if we have to take 24
> month, there will not be much left to disburse to other projects.
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> I thought that the call from Xavier has been to explain specially the
> Investment of the fund at this moment, for which I can only congratulate.
> A 1% return on a super save investment is not bad, and it should be made
> like this in the future.
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> I would absolutely be against a filling up of the reserve fund from the
> auction proceeds, at least as a decision from this group.
> Or did I misunderstand something?
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> to MK> that effect? MK> If so - I don't see how the CCWG could consider
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> views expressed by Alan reading the Reserve >> account. >> If I have well
> understood his statement he wanted that CCWG discuss the >> level of ICANN
> reserve account which was announced by Xavier to be >> equivalent to one
> year budget as objective. As Xavier mentioned this level >> has not been
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> made by the >> Board and not by this group >> Regards >> Kavouss >> On Thu,
> Aug 10, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Joke Braeken <*joke.braeken at icann.org
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> *> >> wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> Please find below the notes and action
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> transcript >>> and/or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat are provided
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> * >>> Overview from Xavier Calvez on investment management >>> The
> intention of this presentation is >>> to allow the group to think on the
> issue of investment, >>> to understand ICANN's practice, and to answer any
> questions that might be >>> raised. >>> It helps to inform the discussion
> on the ROI of the fund; It includes an >>> overview of how the auction
> proceeds are currently managed, which might lead >>> to how they might be
> managed in the future. >>> Important to note: >>> only conservative
> investment policies are being used >>> the investment strategy will be
> designed in support of the objectives >>> An overview of some illustrative
> investment scenarios was provided, >>> followed by Q&A. >>> Parameters that
> need to be considered: >>> amount of money >>> horizon >>> level of risk
> (which is not correlated to the horizon) >>> Financial information is
> regularly provided during the quarterly >>> stakeholder calls. >>> (amount
> from latest update - Q3 data of FY17. *>>> https://www.icann.org/
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> *) >>> Reserve Fund: 64 million >>> New gTLD unspent application fees: 128
> million >>> Auction proceeds: 233 million >>> Annual budget of ICANN. FY18
> budget expenses 142 million USD. >>> Regarding replenishing the reserve
> fund: appropriate procedures need to be >>> taken, appropriate approvals
> and decisions need to be in place for it to be >>> legal. >>> This is
> however a moral question as well. The charter does include this >>>
> question: “To what extent (and, if so, how) could ICANN, the Organization
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> * >>> = = = = >>> Action item #1: >>> CCWG to review the slides presented
> by Xavier (published on *>>> https://community.icann.org/
> display/CWGONGAP/2017-08-10+CCWG+New+gTLD+Auction+
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> the proposed regrouping of >>> objectives/priorities, as well as the
> clustering of examples ahead of the >>> next meeting, scheduled for 24
> August at 14 UTC. >>> Action item #3: >>> CCWG to review responses to
> charter question #4 and to continue the >>> discussion on the mailing list.
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